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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All of those countries only test the kids who have tested into college prep programs. Test only the kids in AP/IB classes and the US would have the same results.

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Are you so sure about that? No knock on the families that immigrated but a lot of the Asian kids that come over to America in K-12 were not the smartest kids in the classes that they departed from. In many cases they couldn't keep up. However, very many of these kids have been the top students in their class in American schools in the best school districts in not only math and science, but also in other subjects even though English is not their native language. This has been true for at least 40 years. [b]It's the whole reason why holistic admissions was invented.[/b][/quote]

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Absolutely true. Embarrassing but native white kids couldn't keep up with EFL immigrants in the classroom nor on standardized tests. If you followed admissions trends for the past 40 years, you'd know all the barriers that have been put up to try and keep Asian kids from top schools. And when that didn't work, they took them all away or made them optional. Then they added all sorts of stupid non-academic things along the way such as sports and fake foundations but that didn't work either. So they added more invasive things such as personal essays to identify and exclude by calling Asians robots. Whats crazy is that you're going to argue that this isn't true and/or that some arbitrary "well-roundedness" metric that favors white kids is what college campuses need. Meanwhile 40 years ago you'd have been arguing that test scores are the most important thing because the score distribution didn't look so bad for white kids then.[/quote]

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