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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All of those countries only test the kids who have tested into college prep programs. Test only the kids in AP/IB classes and the US would have the same results.

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Are you so sure about that? No knock on the families that immigrated but a lot of the Asian kids that come over to America in K-12 were not the smartest kids in the classes that they departed from. In many cases they couldn't keep up. However, very many of these kids have been the top students in their class in American schools in the best school districts in not only math and science, but also in other subjects even though English is not their native language. This has been true for at least 40 years. It's the whole reason why holistic admissions was invented.[/quote]

Yes because I know that there are tests across Europe and Asia that track kids into non-college prep schools starting in 5th grade.

And there are posts in this topic from people in India, Mali, and Germany that talk about the lack of education for everyone and how kids are tracked.

There are plenty of people who come to the US for education because the exams given to kids in 5th grade and 8th grade and 12th grade exclude kids from educational opportunities. They come to the US and are able to attend college prep programs in high school or University and go on to earn degrees and get good jobs. Degrees and jobs that they would have been excluded from in their home country.

You shouldn't have to be doing Algebra in 6th grade to go to a college prep MS/HS. Most of the kids in the US don't take Algebra until 8th grade, our part of NOVA is different in that kids can take Algebra earlier but that is an anomaly, and they go on to AP/IB classes in HS and then college. But in parts of Asia, without a grasp of Algebra as a 12 year old, you go to a votech school. If you think that is the threshold for keeping up then more power to you. I took 3 years of math in HS,  all non-honors, and was able to earn a PhD in a humanities field and now make a very nice salary. In Asia and Europe, I would have been sent to votech school. I prefer the US system where all kids have an opportunity to succeed. 
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