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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] [b]Men in their 20s rarely want to settle down or take anything seriously. So, they need to find much older men? And if the man lies or cheats or uses her, it’s her fault for not being able to read minds and know his intentions?[/b] [b]But if she withholds sex and demands marriage…that’s also bad, apparently?[/b] [b]Now the economics of it all. Tradwife at 22? Stay at home? One income, IN THIS ECONOMY? This requires her to only aspire to marry rich. But then it’s her fault for being a gold digger.[/b] [b]One income is simply too risky. [/b] As someone who comes from a background (Mennonite) where trad life was just "life", I have bolded what I consider to be false premises. Yes, if you are using some very online caricature of a "tradwife" then you can use almost any premise and reach almost any conclusion you want. But from my background, and even from non-Mennonites I grew up with who had traditional values, none of the above is true. The truth, in my experience is this: -Men in their late teens and early 20s did indeed want to settle down and get married -Marriages are typically between people in the same age range -Adultery is he fault of the adulterer, always -It was expected that, although difficult to achieve, sex would wait until marriage -You can definitely still do it on one income, but not in the beltway[/quote] Mennonites, the ones known for cousin marriage? You want to give marriage advice from the community that marries their cousins???????[/quote] You're thinking of the Amish. The Amish broke off from the Mennonites over 300 years ago.[/quote] No, I'm thinking of Mennonites. "Mennonites, particularly in closely-knit or conservative communities, have historically practiced endogamy (marrying within the group), which has led to instances of cousin marriage, similar to other isolated rural populations. Data indicates that marriage among first and second cousins was, and in some conservative sects still is, relatively common compared to modern secular society, often driven by the small, isolated nature of the communities. "[/quote] I'll take a quote with no citation for what it's worth.[/quote] easily googleable if you felt like it. If you'd rather live in ignorance of your own religion that really doesn't affect me whatsoever. [/quote] It's just such a dumb assertion. It's like generalizing about Mormons from subsets of FLDS. Or generalizing about Jewish people from the Hasidic. If you take a narrow enough slice of any group, and add enough qualifiers, then yeah, you can get eye-catching results. [/quote] So you agree that mennonites marry their cousins? Not sure what the point of this post is. [/quote] My point is that you should understand all the qualifiers and contradictions in your quoted post. Of course some Mennonites have historically married their cousins. And it probably happened just today, too (Congratulations Amos and Rebeccah!). That doesn't mean that it is generalizable across any kind of representative section of traditional Mennonites. Take a statistics class some time and you'll understand. [/quote]
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