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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I grew up the same way, OP, but in NYC. Few on dcum care or relate to the exhausted, working poor commuting families who have to experience more exhaustion, discomfort and inconvenience because of a few people who should be in shelters. Some of my worst childhood memories are of commuting with my single mom, knowing how little protection we had. I'm a staunch Democrat but hate this side of liberal politics. And no one cares if you say unhoused or homeless! It's a nonsense signifier designed to deflect and soothe academic egos. [/quote] I am so, so, so sorry that you had to ENDURE the homelss when you were young. That must have been so very hard. I also hate that we are not taking care of these people. As a society, we shouldn't be pushing them around out of your very sensitive space. We should invest a hell of a lot more into programs that actually help the unhoused. And yes, how we refer to these people matters. They are human beings worthy of decency even if you can't see it.[/quote] Tell us all about these "programs" that are going to help the homeless, over and above the billions already spent on this issue?[/quote] Tell us how you want to police to kick them 20 yards down the street so you don't have to be reminded that these people exist. [/quote] I asked you first, and of course you can't answer, because you as well as anyone can see that throwing more dollars (e.g. "programs") at the homeless issue is not the solution. You just don't have a solution, so it's always more "programs." Very vague, generic term that means nothing, but I'm sure it makes you feel virtuous to support. I never said that I want the police to kick them 20 yards down the street. I do support the concept of mandatory day and night shelters. People do not have a right to live on city streets. If they don't have somewhere else to go, they are taken to a shelter for sleeping and another location to spend their days.[/quote] No you didn't, but that's what they do. You can't make people go to shelters if they don't want to. They aren't committing any crimes. Yes, people have a right to be on the street the same way you do. Of course more funding would solve a lot of these problems. Currently we do not have enough shelters or programs that allow these people to get off the street. Your cynicism and hate does nothing to solve the problem and help these people. [/quote] They do not have a right to loiter in public places. They do not (should not) have a right to sleep, or set up camp, on the street or in any public place. Yes, these things should be petty crimes and there should be enforcement. Yes, people should be forced into shelters if they have no where else to go.[/quote] Actually, THEY DO have a right to sleep on a public bench. It's not against the law. Just like it's not against the law to take a nap on the bus, train, metro or the park. [/quote] Buses, trains and Metros are not public space. You pay for the privilege of being there. If you want to zine out and take a nap on your train ride home, go for it. Completely different from loitering on public sidewalks. [/quote]
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