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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The opportunities are nowhere near competitive enough. DD was able to work at Yale law during the summer and get funding to examine legal theory across 5 different countries with an experienced, decorated law faculty member. During the school year, she has a grant to do bioethics policy work with a New York think tank that reached out to Yale for students, leads a club where she’s able to invite major speakers in ethics and other philosophy faculty, and was able to take a course in the SOM to fulfill her interest in bioethics. At Williams, she could’ve gone to class and taken a wide range of philosophy courses unrelated to her interest and maybe joined/started a club.

Her friends at LACs are academically impressive but that’s about it. They don’t have the experiences that signal impact. At best, they can get into an REU hosted at an institution like my daughters.[/quote]

You have to be out of your mind if you think that top SLAC students don't get summer opportunities equal to those at ivies. Often they do research at Ivies, taking seats that I am sure some Ivy parent felt belonged to their child. My kid did a research summer at Penn. She got it because a Penn reached out to her inquiring about interest. They reached out because their SLAC professor got their PHD at Penn and they sent an unsolicited email suggesting my kid. That is what you get at a top SLAC.[/quote]
Or you could go to Penn and get these offers all the time.[/quote]

Probably not because you were taught by a TA who really didn't care and the professor doesn't know you or really care to. But that same professor will do a solid for a former star from their lab.[/quote]
Oh, so you’re just jealous and couldn’t get into an Ivy. It’s really embarrassing seeing people guess the experiences at these colleges and be so far off.[/quote]

I did my undergrad at a public and went to an Ivy for grad school. It's not a guess at all.[/quote]
My kid goes to Penn and doesn’t get taught by tas almost ever. When were you last at Penn? This has not been his experience and seems purposefully distorted.[/quote]

I didn't go to Penn, I went to a different Ivy for grad school. If your kid was a STEM major or at Wharton they were mostly taught by TAs for their first two years even if a professor delivered the lecture. For upper division classes they would be taught by mostly Assistant Professors and ABD PHD students teaching seminars but they will have opportunities to take classes from Tenured Faculty as well. It's not a bad education at a top Private but it isn't the exclusively taught by Professors environment experienced by those at top SLACs. If I knew at 16 what I know know I would have tried to go to a good SLAC if I could have found a way to afford it. My own experience is proof that you can get it done from any undergraduate path but I do think that some are better than others.[/quote]
A few things.

Lecture being taught by professor means you are being taught by a professor.

Many LACs hire adjunct faculty who are ABD to teach, particularly outside of their “leading” programs in Math, Economics, or Government.

Going through Penn’s physics course catalog for upper division courses, most classes are taught by tenure track faculty- a majority already tenured.[/quote]
1. A class is 3 hours (3 50-minute periods). If prof gives 2 lectures and TA does 1 discussion section, TA is teaching 1/3 of the class (and doing almost all the grading and equal office hours, so it is more like 40%). Compare that to the prof teaching all 3 hours, grading everything etc. — for only 20 students.

2. Top SLACs don’t have ABDs teach.[/quote]

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