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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Only on dcum would multiple people pretend they know with certainty there is or isn’t a God or gods. [/quote] I know with certainly that a pink elephant - or an elephant of any color - did NOT set the world in motion. How about you?[/quote] How do you know that for certain?[/quote] Because that falls outside the realm of the natural world. People fabricated “supernatural forces” in their mind as a way to explain unknown things before science. [/quote] Yes it certainly appears that way - but if you can’t show evidence of a claim, how can you “know with certainty”?[/quote] How does one “show evidence” of something that doesn’t exist? Show evidence that we aren’t living in a computer simulation. [/quote] You don’t, you can’t, and that is the point: you should not claim certainty without evidence. If you do, you give the theists the right to do so as well. That is what they want most, a level playing field for their illogical position. In your second sentence you are asking the question of hard solipsism. Totally different one and not relevant to the god question in any way except as a distraction. Short answer: all debates have to start with some presuppositions. The laws of logic are generally considered the most basic ones. If we can’t agree on the premise that this is reality we experience, no discussion about the nature of that experience can be had so let’s not even bother. If someone’s presupposition is that a god exists (which a large percentage of theist arguments do) then also there is no way to have a discussion about it. [/quote] Claiming that something exists is a lot different than claiming something doesn’t. You can’t prove a negative. Prove that invisible space monkeys don’t sneak your house at night to hide the scissors. Prove that the god isn’t an invisible space monkey running a computer simulation. [/quote] Did you even read what you are responding to?[/quote] I did. It's bunk. Did you read my comment? [/quote] You could try replying to it with some substance instead of nonsense. When did I make any of the claims you ask me to prove? I don’t believe those things, nor do I believe in a god. I am just not going to claim certainty without evidence, nor will I accept it when theists do that, or when others do. Claims require evidence. It’s basic logic.[/quote]
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