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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]they accepted the exact same number as Cornell? bizarre. can you link that?[/quote]

I mean accepted the same number of kids off WL as Cornell. 388[/quote]

Cornell is how many X the size of Columbia?
There was a significant aberration last cycle in WL utilization at Columbia. It may be over now. But it was an aberration and was talked about widely.[/quote]

Yes, and there were still about 60,000 Columbia applicants who were rejected. 
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1/4 of Columbia is GS — an easy admit. Almost as easy as their cash cow grad programs. The ship might not be sinking, but it is definitely taking on water: Columbia will soon share its New York brethren’s status as being the bottom feeder of the Ivy League.[/quote]

Weird how this poster has a Columbia GS obsession. Constantly posts about it. Who the f cares? [/quote]

NP here. GS students  are often older, and they sit side by side with Columbia college students in classes. They also get identical diplomas, watering down the value of the degree.

Weird that you're crashing out over this.

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I don't think they get the same diplomas. The diploma states Columbia College for the traditional college students or SEAS for engineering.
And the GS students don't dorm with the college nor engineering students. I actually think they don't get traditional dormitory offerings at all. I knew a GS student once who thought he could join the fraternities but it turned out he couldn't. He thought his college experience was going to be like that of his Columbia College classmates.
But yeah, they can sit in the same classes but I don't think the required core classes (Art Hum, CC, Lit Hum, etc..) though.[/quote]
They share the majority of classes — all classes but the Core. All major classes. All electives. Some Core classes too (generally not, but GS can take them by petition and often do). They are 25% of kids in major classes and electives. By definition, this dumbs things down a bit — just a bit, mind you. Considering the bottom 25% at an Ivy (including Columbia College) is not so impressive, that’s a total of 40% relatively low quality students. [/quote]

There are probably more mediocre kids at Columbia College than at other Ivies.  Columbia  is TO and it's a bottom tier Ivy.

And that's before you account for GS. [/quote]
Columbia has the highest selectivity of any Ivy other than Harvard or Princeton. That you say that there are more mediocre kids at Columbia than at other Ivies, without offering any evidence, just shows the mediocrity of your own mind.[/quote]

How does Columbia's acceptance rate look if they include the School of General Studies?

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Most of the people on this forum are posting about their high school students applying to college for an undergraduate degree.   The selectivity for Columbia College and the School of Engineering and Applied Science for the class of 2029 was 4%.

The average age of a School of General Studies student is 28, and they accept a range of students, including non-degree students as well as non-traditional students who wants to pursue an undergraduate degree later in life or a non-degree student.  I wouldn't conflate the acceptance rate of Columbia College/SEAS with that of General Studies, anymore than I would conflate the acceptance rate of Harvard College with Harvard Extension School's undergrad degree students.
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The purpose of Columbia School of General a studies is for older (post 21+) to get an undergraduate degree.  The GS students I knew were getting bio or chem degrees to go to medical school after graduation from a school with a liberal arts degree.  While yes, Gen studies students may be in a Columbia College class they are there for a specific purpose.  [/quote]

You're mixing together those who are getting an undergraduate degree with those who enrolled as post-baccalaureate pre-med.   While there are people getting their first undergrad degree through GS who may be pre-med, many students at GS have an undergraduate degree and spend a single year at Columbia doing the pre-med requirement classes (post-bac pre med).[/quote]

Columbia’s common data set for GS:

https://opir.columbia.edu/sites/opir.columbia.edu/files/content/Common%20Data%20Set/2024-25_Columbia_General_Studies_CDS.pdf

1/3 of GS undergrads are international (and RICH, since admission is need aware and Columbia does not meet all need for GS students, domestic or international)
Of Columbia’s 9164 undergrads, 2376 are GS (slightly over 25%)
30% admit rate
Only 25% of enrolled students submitted test scores
Average age of first year, full-time students is 24 and of undergrads, 26 (for those unfamiliar with statsistics, the median age is going to be about 2 years lower)
GPA and class standing is conveniently not reported
An average of only 65% of financial need was met

This is an embarrassment, folks. The cash cow equivalent of a pay to play grad degree, occupying 25% of seats in major classes and electives…
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