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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm also from California and went to UCLA. But I have a lot of friends who went to Cal. Like everything else, the echo chamber of the internet greatly exaggerates things that are often based on partial truths. Most of my friends, many of whom were CS majors, loved their time at Cal. It's certainly not a hold-your-hand place (neither was UCLA), but the vast majority of students find their way and are able the recognize that the university has vast resources available for those who pursue them. As much as this forum criticizes this approach, learning to hustle is a life skill and, so, this is not entirely a disadvantage.

Incidentally DD has a couple friends there--one a biology major and the other econ--and they seem to be thriving.  [/quote]

This is accurate. I’ll also add, at least from my perspective, that Berkeley’s reputation is largely based on the past. That fact, coupled with the fact that [b]Berkeley admissions of late seems to value one-dimensional applicants more than the well-rounded applicants that UCLA admissions tends to favor, leads to more Asian and Indian students at Cal.

And if you understand the intense focus on education in these otherwise varied cultures across those huge regions of the world[/b], it makes sense that the legacy reputation at Cal persists today.[/quote]

But Cal limits the number of OOS and international students, so that can’t explain the high number of Indiana and Asian kids. A lot of them must be in-state California kids. [/quote]
There is a large Asian population in California especially in southern CA.[/quote]

I wonder if it is the same in UIUC. I've been hearing the same stories

Right, I get that. I am from California, but these kids are American so why would they be intense and one dimensional? Because they have immigrant parents that push that on the kids? Are the kids not assimilated?[/quote]

You are forgetting the 7% Chinese students at Cal. 2,637 of them. Going to Cal is huge in China, UCLA second behind, then the East Coast science programs. Those students are cutthroat.[/quote][/quote]

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