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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]When I was at mass, there were probably 30 college girls in mantillas and jeans.[/quote]

There are several younger girls who wear mantillas at our middle of the road NOVA Catholic masses. Yes, there is an appetite for more traditional liturgy--one of my daughters is in choir and prefers to sing in Latin--but I also think they think it looks cute.  I don't think mantillas -----&gt; tradwives.[/quote]

What’s a mantilla? [/quote]

Catholic women used to have to wear a veil over their head in the church during Mass.

When the requirement went away, it quickly disappeared as an American cultural tradition.

This is people bringing that back . . . it is no longer required but is not barred. In modern context it is usually taken as a sign of agreement with a trend toward increased conservatism, the kind that in Catholic Churches goes hand in hand with Opus Dei, Latin Mass, and publicly disagreeing with any pope that is more focused on the things Jesus said to do in the Gospels than fighting abortion, divorce, and the Gays. It is not strictly a sign of conservatism and can (a little naively, usually) be a sign of modesty and outward devotion.

The specific term mantilla (MON-TEA-UH in faux phonetic English) is specifically taken from the Spanish version which was once common for Spanish women in contexts beyond Church even though it was an overwhelmingly Catholic country. The big black thing draped over your head, etc.

If you haven't heard of a mantilla, it's probably a good sign.[/quote]

Wow, thank you for this helpful explanation and context.  I'm a protestant Christian and was not understanding why we are talking about some seemingly Spanish word in this discussion.[/quote]

DP: For more context, women stopped wearing hats/veils at mass in the 60s, though it was officially changed in 1983. I was born in the 60s and never saw anyone wearing a hat or veil in church other than a bride or old lady until the last three years. To me, it comes across as performative in a way that goes against Catholic teaching about performative religious practices. But I conceed that for some it may be a genuine, though not required, modesty choice. [/quote]

They are the Catholic taliban.[/quote]
 Ridiculous and offensive [/quote]

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