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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I haven't read the article.  Obviously, women should be treated as equals, etc, but I think it is worth asking questions about whether many of feminism's achievements have actually improved things for women.  Arguably, women now have to do everything a man has to do, in addition to everything that women do, and it doesn't seem like this is a good deal.  Men are miserable, women report the lowest levels of happiness in decades, and yet we can't question whether this is all working for us.[/quote]

I am happy, single woman, and working, with a home.[/quote]

That's good.  I am happy, married, and working, with a home.  I also don't think that American feminism has been utterly perfect in advancing women's needs.[/quote]

There is only so much "feminism" can do. It is not going to negate the two income trap which has caused the price of everything to rise since it assumed many households have two people working, and feminism will not force men to do what they don't want to do in the home. [/quote]

This is exactly correct.  Feminism has made our GDP rise dramatically, but it also has meant that women *must* work in order for their households to stay afloat financially.

And, on the count of household chores- people forget that the promise that feminism made was that modern household appliances would reduce work, and that the "extra income" generated from women working would mean that families could hire help.  It hasn't panned out this way because of economics.  So needing men to take on more household work-- that was never in the original plan.  It's a fairly recent realization that women are working as much as men, then coming home and working another shift.  And in most cases, women will not admit this is happening in their own homes, even though studies on this are very clear that women do dramatically more household work.
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Explains why the birth rate is tanking.

Women also want careers and a life outside of raising kids.  Why should women have to give this up?  [/quote]

I feel like the entire premise of asking this question is pointless because we are NOT going to revert back to a world where women are or can be restricted from working. We are here, we will work if we want, we need to figure out how we adapt to that now. The solution is pretty clear, honestly, support and flexibility (for parents and families in general). [/quote]

It feels like false premise anyway. I’m not young and both my grandmothers worked. Maternal grandmother was a night shift nurse. She went back as soon as her oldest could babysit while she slept in the afternoons. The real difference is women’s contribution isn’t ignored and their options aren’t as limited. How is this a bad thing?[/quote]

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