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Reply to "Is this going to be a trend? (WSJ - Palantir Thinks College Might Be a Waste. So It's Hiring High-School Grads)"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Palantir + Peter Theil are both gross. College can be so much fun and a great way to meet people. Why skip it unless you truly can’t afford it. [/quote] When college becomes very expensive, it is no longer as much fun except for the few who will graduate with no loans. I think the pressure for everyone to get a degree that is expensive and it being branded as the best experience or best 4 years of your life is equally gross. [/quote] +1 The ROI for the majority of students is the worst investment they will make. I hope we go back to apprenticeships, which is basically what this is.[/quote] That all depends on if one is ok with working blue collar jobs that are harder on the body than white collar jobs.[/quote] The error is thinking you need college for a white collar job. Up through the 1980s in Britain plenty of white collar industries recruited students right out of high school via a training scheme. Especially in finance, accounting, low level corporate roles. You would be surprised by how many rose through the ranks. So many office jobs don't need degrees if we are being honest, far more is gained from on site job learning. As for critical thinking, I am ambivalent about the concept. It's a nice idea but college isn't the only place to get an "education." There are so many poorly educated kids coming out of colleges these days, and the degree is no guarantee they're equipped with the right critical thinking skills. [/quote] yes, but then in the 80s/90s, companies wanted people to have a college education. There are even more poorly educated kids coming out of HS. BTW, now even in Britain, companies want people with college degrees. My spouse is from there; their nephews graduated from college about a decade ago, and they said that even then, companies there wanted people with college degrees. What you are advocating would lead to a large proportion of the wealth gap. There would need to be a complete paradigm shift in corporate America to have a college degree be a waste. If you want to be lead the way and not have your kids go to college, be my guest. Let us know how that turns out. Mine is now in college, has had some great internships. The one upcoming is going to pay them $91/hour. There is no way that DC would've gotten that if they weren't in college. Most 18-21 year olds don't have the drive to self educate and learn on their own. BTW, do you think Trump's college aged son will now drop out of college because it's a waste? [/quote] Should be pointed out that with growing expectations for a college degree, the income inequality has only worsened. Substantially. When everyone has a degree, it becomes useless. There is nothing special about having a college degree. What it only does is to demonstrate you have the capacity to graduate from a college. That's all. It does not say anything about critical thinking or skills or accomplishments or attitudes. Having a degree doesn't mean you have any of it. There is no shortage of illogical people woth wacky beliefs and ideologies who have degrees. Do we need to force millions of kids into expensive degrees with debt just to get a basic job once they graduated? That is the question. And it's worth looking at it carefully. [/quote] oh sure, that's why the elites don't send their kids to college. Don't send your kid to college. I don't care. More opportunities for my kids.[/quote]
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