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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just genuinely interested in everyone’s thoughts. It’s surprising that Mudd, Swat, and Carleton are still test optional while remaining very rigorous. Also interesting that Williams, Amherst, Pomona haven’t seemed to consider test scores.[/quote]

I don't think it matters for Mudd. The applicants are almost all in the top percentile for Math. Their selection process is unique due to their size, and they are very careful about who can thrive in their small community and rigorous academic environment. [/quote]

Then why did Caltech go back to test required?[/quote]
They literally saw two students do poorly and rushed a decision. It actually really wasn't as well thought out or quantitative as one would assume from caltech. [/quote]

Yes, I agree they did rush, and they also played the admissions game to increase their yield by reducing the number of accepted applicants from approximately 430 to 330 between fall 2023 and fall 2024. Also, their selection process differs slightly as they require having members for their entire sports team, whereas Mudd shares its athletics with CMC and Scripps. This helps Mudd to select more students who would focus solely on academics. Therefore, if any applicant is a D3, they will have a significantly better chance of being accepted to Caltech than a regular applicant.

Another big difference is Mudd community which is smaller overall than Caltech. I know both Caltech and Mudd have around 920 undergraduates, but Caltech has a broader student community with the addition of graduate students. One can argue that Claremont Colleges as a whole form a larger community, but the STEM community is fairly small and confined to Mudd students. Hence, the Mudd admission committee is more geared towards selecting students who will thrive in a small environment.

Thirdly, Caltech, having a more household name, attracts many students who are prestige changers or students who may not be super qualified, whereas Mudd, not having such a household broader name attracts students who genuinely know about Mudd. That's why for Caltech it's much harder to winnow the applicants with TO, whereas for Muss it's less tedious to do so. [/quote]

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