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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What I am seeing and hearing is all high stat students are applying to the same schools..

Michigan
Chicago
Cornell
Vandy
Duke
CMU
Penn
MIT
UVA

Boys girls, public private high schools , engineering, pre law, pre med, everyone I know is literally applying to these schools..all high stats.[/quote]

At one child's private as well as my other kid's stem-magnet public, we can get data on where females v males apply: males interested in stem apply to MIT, CMU and the big state schools much more than females. Females interested in stem apply to Ivies, Chicago(they have molecular engineering), Duke as much or more than the males and most top stem females do not apply to UCB Mich GT. We toured every ivy but one as well as MIT. All but one of them had female tourguide for the interested-in-stem applicants.
There are just so many top females interested in Engineering in our area: there have been robotics teams half female for at least 6 years and there are multiple girls who code groups. The last four valedictorians have all wanted Engineering, four have been women. Valedictorians are easy to pick out on SCOIR which narrows by year: The SATs were all 1550+. The women getting admitted to engineering at the ivy-level are not any level lesser than the guys. For whatever reason, the females tend to prefer the non-tech-y schools, they want engineering within a liberal arts environment, they want to be able to continue theater, orchestra, singing that they did in high school. That type of mixing of interests is much harder to get at a super tech or large public. For any slight female boost, target GT, Mich, CMU, UIUC. The very top females often leave them off the list.
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SAT scores are insufficient for distinguishing between the "level" of students admitted to schools like MIT - tons get 1550+, including plenty of rejects. Acceptance rates are a better metric when comparing between two groups that are similarly qualified at the top end.

To give an analogy, if MIT decided they wanted more gingers, they could accept tons more gingers with ~3.8+, ~1550+ stats who would otherwise have been rejected. In this scenario, it would be easier to get into MIT as a ginger than as a non-ginger despite admitted gingers having similar stats to admitted non-gingers.

This is also the case for athletes at MIT, to a much greater extent. All athletes at MOT have similar stats to admitted non-athletes, yet the acceptance for rowers with coach support is 40% - way more than the average. Despite the similar stats, being a rower with coach support clearly makes it easier to get into MIT (if you ignore the difficulty of developing that rowing skill in the first place)[/quote]

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