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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the point is just that the data is complex.  At risk students do not as an overall general demographic score very well on CAPE and that leads to complicated discussions re whether or not schools with a large number of lower scoring at risk students are doing a good job.  But this is not true of all at risk students.  If you isolate some of the highest performing and most motivated students within any demographic, you are going to get higher scores.  If you just want to know how strong the student cohort is, then I guess it does not matter.[/quote]

The families on this board are not at risk.  So it doesn’t matter and is not relevant if schools are doing a good job of at risk.

Families on this board, majority will most likely have kids at or above grade level, so what matters is how strong the student cohort is overall.[/quote]
The way that this "at risk" conversation started is that someone wrote that it was really impressive that Latin was doing so well given how many economically disadvantaged / at risk kids they have.

My point was simply to say, "Nope."  Latin has fewer, not more at risk students than the other high schools on the list.

In general though, if you look at analyses of scores, like the one at Empower DC listed above, "at risk" is cross-referenced with scores to provide context.  This is because if you look at a school that has lots of students who would generally get a 25 on a test and they are getting 45s, then you know that school is doing a really good job.  Whereas if you just look at the 45s and say "what a bad score" you're missing the point that usually, on average, that student is expected to get a 25.  The point is that what is a good score for one student isn't what is a good score for another person.

So, if you are considering your neighborhood school and they have xyz test scores, and you want to know if they are a good school, you need to take into account what the context is of xyz score.

It's true, if the only thing you care about, as a parent, is that there is a large enough high performing cohort for your kid, it's simpler.  But if you're a policy maker, or even just a parent with an interest in statistics and DC schools writ large, then you might be interested in which schools are actually better as opposed to just which schools have the largest high performing cohort.

One reason you might be interested in this is because even if your family is wealthy or educated, your kid might have severe dyslexia and a reading delay and then, magically, they actually need good instruction oriented towards kids who are having a hard time in school.  Then you might be glad you've done the analysis to find the best school for your kids as opposed to just the school with the most kids who look like them.[/quote]

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