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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sounds like many of you didn’t read the full article… “ …Even when applicants had the same SAT or ACT scores, those from the richest families were more than twice as likely to be admitted, according to the study, which analyzed data on test scores and parental income taxes for nearly all U.S.”[/quote] Sigh. Because wealth doesn't only impact academics. It impacts access and achievements in extra-curriculars. Isn't that OBVIOUS to you??? [b]Extra-curriculars are the single most inequitable category of college admissions, FAR surpassing test scores and grades.[/b] Any intelligent child can get good grades and test scores, and there are free or low-cost tutors and test prep available everywhere in the US. But no amount of talent can propel a poor kid to the highest levels of any EC that requires money over a sustained period of time. My kid will have been playing violin for 14 years by the time she applies to college. Twice a week year round, $100/hr, which is cheap given how reputable her teacher is. The violin cost a lot of money. She has won competitions and achieved a high level. Her STEM-minded friend went to Paris last winter for a genetics competition, and does that sort of thing regularly. And that's nothing compared to travel sports (10K+ a year), horse eventing, polo, sailing, flying, car racing, etc. You seem to have NO IDEA of how much parents can spend on extra-curriculars, and how it influences college admissions. [/quote] This!!! The SAT test scores are the biggest equalizer for smart poor kids.[/quote] Only if the definition of a "good" score can be adjusted based on circumstances/a school's average score. A smart poor kid using free test prep resources, only taking it once, and coming from a less well resourced school is still going to have lower scores than a UMC private school kid with hours of tutoring.[/quote] A majority of private school kids (even with hours of tutoring) actually don't have 1500+. The big3, big5, big10 etc type of kids have higher scores because they are smarter. Magnet and selected public schools have much higher sat average than a regular private school.[/quote] People are conflating wealth with private vs public. 25%+ of Sidwell receives decent FA, while almost nobody who attends Whitman or Langley is “poor”. I would also wager that most of TJ comes from a wealthier demographic as well. This article is specifically about wealth.[/quote] Actually, it’s 23% of Sidwell students that receive financial aid, and even with the financial aid that 23% is still paying on average of $20,000 a year for school. Trust me, there are many students at even the richest public high schools in the DMV who cannot afford $20,000 a year for private school. So, respectfully, you’re full of shit.[/quote] Dipshit...your comment is so stupid it's hard to unravel. The average Whitman or Langley family could easily afford full pay at Sidwell and definitely afford $20,000 per year. They instead decided to purchase their $3MM+ house and are fine with public...their neighbor across the street may decide they want Sidwell or Landon or wherever instead. But since again, you are a dipshit, you can't even understand what this thread is about...which is that the article mentions nothing about private vs. public, but talks about wealth. So, it doesn't matter which school you attend in the context of this article.[/quote] I agree. I am the earlier poster who gave examples of expensive ECs. We could afford private, but choose to live in a wealthy neighborhood where my kids attend public school. Half my neighborhood sends their kids to various privates, including Sidwell (grandparents pay for tuition) and Landon. The other half is like us. The wealthiest are not necessarily the ones who choose private, let's leave it at that. [/quote]
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