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- Claims that eliminating vehicle GHGs wouldn't impact climate change, ignoring the fact that transportation is the largest U.S. emissions source.
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It is called GLOBAL warming.  US transportation is not the largest global emissions source.  It probably isn't the largest US source either, but they have switched a lot of power plants away from coal.[/quote]

Meanwhile China is embracing EVs and solar and 2000s technologies while Trump has us propping up 1900s fossil fuel technologies.[/quote]

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China loves it when other countries pass restrictions on CO2 emissions, and will play along to make it happen.
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China's efforts are working.  Their CO2 emissions are starting to level off.

Meanwhile for all the casting of China as the bad guys, the US still produces more CO2 than China.

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1952117516811075585/j0CW-9Wo?format=png&name=small[/img][/quote]China is double the US emissions.  You are looking at emissions per capita.  The environment doesn't respond to emissions per capita, but to CO2 in the atmosphere.  China's emissions per capita is higher than the global average too.

Perhaps if climate science moves in a new direction where leveling off of emissions solves global warming, these stats you show would be relevant.  Instead China has to reduce by at least 80%.
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Your argument is predicated on China not putting in another solar panel, not another wind turbine, abandoning its thorium reactors and other innovative sources of non-fossil-based energy production.   However, by every indication they are NOT slowing down on solar, wind and other alternatives, they are in fact accelerating.

So what's your excuse?  What's Trump's?  You don't have one, just the same old talking points from 20 years ago which ignore the current realities.  And in the current reality, "drill baby drill" is not the way forward.  Not for us, and not for China.

Do better.[/quote]

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