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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For those new to Championship Meets and swim meets in general:

If an athlete makes Finals, doesn't scratch, and fails to appear, that athlete faces penalties.

Additionally, if a meet cannot run to ensure fair and equitable competition, including staffing minimums,  the [b]meet will not be held until those minimums are met. [/b]Everything done on these decks are for the athletes.

Timer slots are not assigned for finals; finals requires timers. Competing is an option; if parents are unwilling to collectively step up and be willing to volunteer, have your athlete scratch from finals or be patient until the minimums are met to ensure fair and equitable competition. [/quote]

Yeah, that didn’t happen. At senior champs, the meet (1500) WAS held but doors were not opened.

- take the money you’re putting towards bag checkers and pay for timers

- advertise for service hours to HS kids to time

- charge an entry fee and pay timers (campus was full of students)

- come up with reasonable solutions (telling timers they have to stay the whole finals session is not reasonable when their kid may be in the first event OR say upfront no guaranteed entry into the facility until we have timers but for every session you time, you get a wristband allowing you entry to an evening session, etc)

The solution to start the meet (which they did at senior champs) and then not let anyone (even previous timers) in is absurd.[/quote]
+1,000 to all of this. PVS, if anyone comes across this post, please consider these suggestions. [/quote]

Spot on!

All sides had egg on their face Friday night and it’s time to stop pointing fingers at one another and find reasonable solutions. Leadership at PVS please stand up and lead the way.  
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Let me add that on Friday, they locked the parents out of the entire building and forced them to queue in the sun and heat.  One of these parents had younger children with them. One even had a newborn in her arms, but fortunately she was let in without waiting.

As has been pointed out, the meet didn't have contingency plans for a timer shortage. Rather than punishment, perhaps a positive incentive can be offered. PVS is not summer swim. Parents pay thousands of dollars for club fees, and then meet fees on top of that. They are paying customers and should be treated accordingly.  I'd be curious to know how much money was made from those meet fees and who received it.

On top of that, many parents were frustrated with the cell phone dead zone that is Epply. While you could register for the wifi, I've worked with the big telcos and there is a better solution (that is often free or discounted to the university, depending on various factors). It's called Active Digital Antenna System.(Active DAS). [/quote]

What does a cell phone dead zone at the University have to do with PVS or the willingness of parents to volunteer? [/quote]

Did you miss the phrase "on top of that...."?  It's another point of frustration for the parents. PVS held the meet at a place known for poor cell coverage. It could tell the university that this was a point of frustration, and if the university doesn't get it fixed, another venue might be considered in the future. [/quote]

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