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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Jews have to control the historical land of Israel in order for Jesus to return to earth, and then Jesus will destroy the Jews along with any other non-believers.

It’s basically a story of a global holocaust of non-Christians. Good times![/quote]

Catholic Christians do not believe this. I don't know what Protestant Christians and Mormons believe, but assume they are aligned with what is posted above.

I went to Catholic school all my life, and this issue was specifically addressed in our religion class while we were doing a unit on the Holocaust in another class.  According to the priest teaching the religion class, it was made clear in Vatican II that Jews can achieve salvation WITHOUT converting to Christianity.  In the book of Romans in the bible, Paul talks about God's covenant with the Jewish people, which is unchanged and ongoing.  Also, the way/why the Jews are promised and will achieve salvation is considered a "mystery" in the Catholic church, but it is real.  I remember the priest telling us that "the Jews are God's special people."  He was pretty clear about that.  And God promised the land of Israel to the Jews in a bunch of places in the Old Testament; I remember this happened in Genesis (but there's other places too).  The holy land was promised by God to the Jews as their home.

It's not a coincidence that JD Vance is adamantly Catholic.  Megyn Kelly is vocal about her Catholic faith and so are other MAGAs.  Here's a New York Post article about MAGA Catholics: https://nypost.com/2025/04/20/us-news/meet-americas-new-maga-catholics/

So, I don't know what Protestant Christians believe, but that's the Catholic perspective.

Disclaimer: I am not religious today.[/quote]

I can see why you're no longer religious, with the above being an example of how the Catholic Church ties itself up in knots trying to align common sense with doctrine.  It only matters that Jews are saved if you believe that stuff in the first place.[/quote]

As a Jew, I don’t care if the church thinks I can be saved — I’m just glad they’re no longer teaching that we killed Christ. [/quote]

As a Catholic, I never learned that the Jews killed Christ.  But come to think of it, they were all Jews, weren't they?  Including Jesus.[/quote]

Me neither and by the way, Pontius Pilate wasn't Jewish -- he was Roman.   There weren't any Christians yet.[/quote]

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