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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Totally agree with you. Anyone who speaks up against what Israel is doing and you are anti semantic. I’m not anti semantic. I’m so tired of the special treatment that Jews are receiving. Even the way Trump seems to support only Israel.[/quote] What "special treatment"? Support for their efforts to reclaim their hostages? Leaving aside the difference between semantic and semitic, one of the issues with all the rabid pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel rhetoric is that it seems to never manage to be pro-Palestinian while acknowledging Palestinian responsibility for their travails, and the power of the Palestinians to control their own destiny. To the Hamas/Palestinian apologists, everything is Israel's fault, and the Palestinians have no responsibility for incubating, raising, supporting, or sheltering Hamas, or for their incompetent corrupt government, or for their alignment with Iran. To them, Oct. 7 is irrelevant - all Palestinian casualties resulting from it are instead simply the result of deliberate, unprovoked, IDF action. The continued holding of hostages is not worthy of discussion. Ending hostilities with the release of the hostages and the disarmament of Hamas is not worthy of contemplation. The concept of self-defense is never discussed, only the impact it has on the Palestinians with not a word for IDF casualties. The usual trope is that Israel "stole" Palestinian land in 1948, and every Palestinian terror action thereafter was meant to righteously reverse that U.N. action. No pro-Palestinian apologists consider whether terror is a reasonable response to a dispute over land, and no recognition is given to the Palestinian violent rejection of the opportunity to then have had their own state for the first time. Calling Israelis Nazis doesn't help, either, given that Nazi anti-Jewish activity was motivated by racial hatred, jealousy of Jewish financial and educational success, and was unilateral - there were no Jewish attacks on the Germans to prompt pogroms and the Holocaust. Compare that situation to Oct 7, where aggression from Gaza precipitated a forceful and justified IDF response which continues to this day only because Hamas is still trying to coerce Israel through hostage-holding. Hamas' own charter calls for the destruction of Israel, yet criticism of Hamas is non-existent among the apologists. Never mind Hamas' objectives, to them, it's the Israeli response which is "genocide". While they can't seem to say it out loud, the clear message from the apologists is that Israel should abandon the hostages, and let Hamas regroup and try again later. These all seem to be reasonable bases for support for Israel to me. [/quote]
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