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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes. [/quote]

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment. [/quote]
Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?[/quote]

Money is the problem, not the solution [/quote]
There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.[/quote]

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?[/quote]

Yep.  The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports.  They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.[/quote]

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ [/quote]

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.[/quote]

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you. 
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?[/quote]

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment.  But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports.  The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.[/quote]

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?[/quote]
It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.[/quote]

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer [/quote]
Nobody is saying every single basketball and football player would make a great soccer player at every position. I guess you have to resort to these nonsensical straw man arguments because you have no better facts. The fact remains that the best high school athletes are going to be on the basketball and football teams. Have you watched a high school basketball game? Most kids are around 6 ft. Same with most on the football and track teams. These athletic kids are well suited to play any of these sports and make their choice. It ain't soccer.[/quote]

Like most sports, soccer requires athleticism too.  But soccer requires skills not usually associated with the specific athleticism required in other sports.  You don’t have to be the fastest or jump the highest.  Requires technical skills and control of the ball with the feet that is unique.

Football and basketball players are not better athletes.  They are better at their sport.  That’s all. [/quote]
Call it however you want. The kids with the natural qualities which would have allowed them to excel in soccer the most are not choosing soccer. Also, a big part of success in sports is having the discipline and nonstop drive to excel and those kids aren’t going into soccer either.

I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Are you suggesting soccer in the US is drawing the best talent available?[/quote]

Their point clearly and in an educated way showed your natural talent chatter to be hogwash[/quote]

It's so obvious that achievement in soccer is way more than just developing skills.  Just look at any youth soccer clubs at every age group, especially the big ones.  If a club only hires qualified coaches and they emphasize all the same things, why is the top team always head and shoulders better than the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teams?  Why are the lower tier teams basically the same performance quality as rec despite all the paid coaching?  The answer is the number of players with enough talent to play at a high level is limited.  When you have to compete with other sports when it comes to talent distributor,  you end up where the US is with soccer. [/quote]

You have extra gummies?[/quote]
Ah yes. When the facts don’t support your case, make personal attacks to distract from the facts. [/quote]

You must mean Fax

Because you're just rambling disconnected random thoughts

There are no natural talent athletes performing at the highest levels in any sport 
At the highest levels, talent is just the beginning before motivation, discipline, training and consistency in that particular sport's discipline.

Athleticism skills required in each individual sport has limited transferable properties. 
In Basketball, you jump to catch or block the ball. In Soccer you jump to header the ball (except goalie)

You're way out of your depth with the knowledge required to debate this topic intelligently. [/quote]

Some of the comments are me, a different person than the one you replied to.  Nobody said natural talent alone is going to get someone to reach the highest levels.  Every player has a ceiling that is dictated by their genetics.  Despite all the skills needed in soccer, there is a ton of athleticism that goes into playing at the highest levels.  The most talented players will continue improving upwards while everyone else is plataeuing.

There is simply no alternative explanation as to why US athletes dominate so many other sports but not soccer, oh except for the women who have the exact same barriers that the men have with pay to play and so on that everyone thinks is the cause.[/quote]

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