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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are people so quick to dismiss this? Africa has a long history of racial tension, and intra-racial ethnic tension. South Africa is perhaps the most famous example, and it's not exactly a secret that the black and white South Africans have beef.  [b]I once worked overseas with white South Africans, and they were all working to get UK citizenship due to government persecution (and many of them were successful).

There's a long history of race-based attacks on African farmers, not just in SA but also in Zimbabwe and other countries. So this all fits the fact pattern.[/b] Add onto it that our own state department acknowledges that reports of government violence are credible. Here's a report from 2023, so it cant be accused of being "manipulated" by the Trump administration: https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/south-africa/

There's only one reason you're fighting this, and that's because the victims are white. Full stop. It's so transparent. [/quote]

I have known a number of South Africans who are white, and most of them told me they are trying to get friends and family out of SA.

I also knew a family who escaped Zimbabwe after their family farm was attacked and confiscated; the government condoned it and the family lost everything.

Things are not OK in South Africa, as much as many in the U.S. and EU want to pretend otherwise.[/quote]

South Africa is not Zimbabwe, but whites have been trying to conflate what happened in Zimbabwe with violence against white farmers in SA since apartheid ended.

And yes, SA has a very high crime rate. I lived there from '05-'07 and almost every South African had a story of being robbed, home invasions. Criminal gangs would hit a mall, clean out a jewelry store, and sometimes that would involved someone being shot and killed. I was on a safari and the front desk of the lodge was robbed right before we returned from an evening drive. There is a lot of crime there and yes, a lot of it happens to whites. Not necessarily because they are white but BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MONEY. Crime also happens to wealthy and middle class black South Africans too. And I honestly think many of you would be amazed at the high standard of living you can attain in South Africa with a little bit of money.

But all of that is a very far cry from a government-sponsored white genocide that would necessitate refugee status for Afrikaners. That's not happening. And that's the the whole point that people are making.[/quote]

A genocide is not required as a matter of law to be granted asylum in the U.S.

The law states that to establish refugee status, only need to prove "that RACE, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion was or will be at least one central REASON FOR PERSECUTING the applicant."

No genocide is required. [/quote]

You just aren't going to give it up, are you?

It was Trump who claimed these folks needed refugee status because they were being subjected to white genocide. That's literally the whole point.[/quote]

"These folks needed refugee status because they were being subjected to white" persecution and murder.

Fixed it for everyone.  For you, for everybody.  [/quote]

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