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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Trump is a historically unpopular president. Democrats could run Elmo and he'd win in 2028, particularly if Vance is the GOP nominee.

But let's say Nikki Haley is the GOP nominee. That's a problem for Democrats.

Democrats are on the wrong side of a lot issues that motivate voters - illegal immigration, violent crime, schools, racial preferential hiring, and yes, the trans thing. Republicans will go to town on all those issues.

I think a lot of people are confusing economic progressives with social progressives. Social progressives are an anvil for Democrats. But economic progressives are a big win for Democrats. If Bernie Sanders was 20 years younger, he'd win in a heartbeat. AOC is only 35. She's too young to fill that space. But if Democrats could find a middle aged governor who's all about the working and middle class, they will do very well.

I personally like Pritzker right now. He's saying and doing the right things. But there is a lot of space for someone to come out of left field and surprise everyone. The usual names - Newsome, Whitmer, Buttigieg, Shapiro, Walz, Harris - are not happening. You only have one chance to make a first impression, and they all failed. They don't have what it takes to win a competitive race against a Haley.[/quote]

Agree with most of this. Economic Progressives are a large swath of the American people whether they realize it or not. Sanders and AOC are popular populists for this reason. Too bad the reason they are popular with regular people is the same reason they aren't popular with the wealthy folks steering party decisions.

Haley is not someone Trump will endorse and therefore has no shot at the 2028 nomination. It will be the doomed Trump endorsed candidate vs a very lucky soul not named AOC or Sanders in 2028.[/quote]

You assume Trump makes it to the end of his term.[/quote]

70% chance he does and even if he doesn't, the 2028 GOP nominee will still be a Trump endorsed candidate. They are stuck with that disadvantage until the 2030s.[/quote]

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