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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Very meh.[/quote]

Don’t get what the big deal about this movie is. There wasn’t much intrigue. I won’t spoil for others who haven’t seen it. I’m Catholic, so I know that clergy are no more holy or infallible than anyone else. To me it was more like a work of nonfiction. lol[/quote]

It was way better than the majority of popular US movies out in the Fall and even now - so many marvel/ super hero/ horror flick/ dystopian future/ hyper violent fare on offer.

Ralph F and Isabella R were splendid. The filming was creative and personalities well honed.

I was raised Catholic and am also well aware that the pontiffs are very human. However the drama and calculating intrigue under the pious exteriors captured our attention the whole way through  - with no pointless blood letting  .. the preposterous ending eas hilarious and nice light relief.

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But that preposterous ending was already done decades ago in a movie called Mona Lisa. Although as a Catholic feminist, it was one of the few points of the movie I actually liked, because it was a very subversive statement. The fact that so many think the movie "got off track" at the point or was "hilarious" as you stated is sexist.[/quote]

I left Catholicism due to feminist beliefs. It is outrageous that old men in the Vatican get to decide on reproductive policies for women . Are they going to raise all these babies born to poor women who often can’t take care of the kids they have already? Catholicism may be on wane in the West but remains very strong in many African and Latin American countries. Wake me up when they welcome female pontiffs to the Vatican table. [/quote]

If we don't remain to agitate, things won't change. If we don't remain, they win by default. Leaving it to those of us who remain isn't a solution.[/quote]

Like many, I converted to a Protestant mainstream church that allows women and gays to become church ministers and doesn’t poke its nose in women’s private reproductive decisions.

It wasn’t just about that though: it was also the Catholic child abuse situation. I did not want my children raised in a church where there were not strong safeguards to protect them from predators.

However, I have a lot of respect for many aspects of the Catholic Church (such as  Catholic Relief Services, Jesuit spiritual practices and intellectual rigor, running many schools and hospitals ithat serve the poor n developing countries, and remarkable scientific contributions to Western science over hundreds of years.

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The Catholics have some of the strongest protections now.[/quote]

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