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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The way you were taught is taught in some American schools.  If you look for classes labeled Math I, Math II, or Integrated Math I, II they use this model. [/quote]

Unfortunately, there are two problems with integrated math in the US:

1. It's not the standard track, so if you are halfway through a combo of algebra and geometry, and then, like many Americans, move, you're either going to be slotted ahead or behind where you should be.

2. The subtler problem is that, in the US, it is basically never something like Singapore's hardcore New Syllabus, [b]but rather districts that adopt integrated math like to go with fluffy, inadequate discovery-oriented curricula.[/b] [/quote]

Yes, exactly.  Here is why:

Hidden within these progressive approaches to math is always the DEI agenda.  Specifically “equity of outcome.”  That means:  everyone has to arrive at the same place and no one should be ahead of anyone else.

The easiest way to accomplish the “equity of outcome” goal is:  lower the bar.

So that is what DEI departments in school districts across the country have been doing.[/quote]

OMGERD DEI!!! SO SCARY!! AND REAL!!!!

Sounds like your issue is really the DEI boogeyman, not actually the progression of math content.

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When you have kids in school, you'll understand. [/quote]

Unfortunately a lot of bizarre ideas in math teaching come from the left. Like ethno-mathematics, de-tracking, representation etc, While they may have some place in math history they are completely counterproductive when it comes to teaching math.

Integrated math falls into this category because [b]it’s associated with[/b] removal of honors classes, so it’s a way to implement de-tracking.[/quote]

Only because Republicans whipped up some hysteria around these topics and irrational people get confused easily.

If people actually took a moment to understand what integrated math is then they'd realize that it really doesn't have anything to do with detracking. 
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Trust me that I know what’s in the integrated math and what’s best for my child.

Integrated math is used as a detracking tool in several ways. First, when the switch is made from AGA to IM they eliminate honors classes and offer only one level of IM. Second,  it’s not possible to take concurrent algebra and geometry which was one way to move to the upper track. Third, integrated math is a little bit of everything without going into depth because there not enough time, which hurts the top students the most.

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Integrated math can be taught accelerated and/or advanced. It's just the sequencing of the topics. It's how they do math in many other countries.

You are conflating the topics and make baseless assumptions. 
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IM Math can be taught accelerated and compacted but in practice it isn’t common and it’s also not advisable.

Compaction is more common for Math 3-8 grades, although different districts have various approaches. Usually when it comes to Algebra 1 or IM1 it’s a full year and it’s rarely compacted although there may be exceptions to that. There are some compacted classes like IM3-Precalculus or the equivalent Algebra2-Precalculus, but there’s no good reason to cram two years of high school into one.

The point of the OP was to inquire about AGA vs IM. While schools have different classes and programs, and there’s no uniform answer across all, Algebra1-Geometry-Algebra2 is generally more rigorous than integrated math in US schools.

Your hole beef seems to be finding some exceptions, which [b]nobody denies exist[/b], but they are also are not as representative.[/quote]

False. 
Some ding dong keeps insisting that schools can't offer accelerated or advanced versions of integrated math: 
[i]"For integrated math there’s no opportunity to accelerate"
"IM classes are not compacted"
"Schools don't offer compacted IM classes"
"Integrated math falls into this category because it’s associated with removal of honors classes, so it’s a way to implement de-tracking"
"Integrated math is used as a detracking tool"[/i]

Which is clearly not true. Integrated math is simply the sequence of math content. 
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