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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They're unsure about post-college plans for work or grad school. We're from the West Coast, but they've spent time in major Midwest and East Coast cities and enjoyed them. It's unclear if either school has stronger West Coast alumni ties or name recognition.

I wasn't clear about this comment "official school team".   They have plans to get involved with a school club (that Pitt has but U of R doesn't) but not an actual sports team or club.

The 25% comment is less about a drag on their learning  and more that their determination and effort might incease if the feel the heat from not just the top but the bottom.[/quote]

PP.  The Pitt grad.  I would say that both schools likely skew East Coast and are unlikely to have significant alumni clubs out west.

Major research universities are usually well understood when applying to graduate programs.  Global name recognition comes from having faculty and international students and businesspeople familiar with your school.  International students tend to cluster in the disciplines that big research universities offer.  That's different than having a lot of alumni in particular US locales.

Sorry about the official sport comment.  That was relevant to the 2024 OP's kid.

I don't know what to tell you about pressure from the bottom.  The smartest kids at Pitt are highly independent and working on their own projects, fellowship applications, and grad school goals. I can't think of any friends who fit the pattern you're talking about where pressure from the bottom motivated people to work harder. Pitt has weed out courses in STEM just like other schools.  Sometimes it's nice to know you won't be the worst if something's super challenging.  My son is currently a freshman at my grad school alma mater watching his very smart roommate (NMF/valedictorian) going through the engineering weedout classes.  It's like that Dilbert saying: "Pressure makes diamonds. Pressure makes garbage more compact."

I think either decision will work out fine.  I would choose on the appeal of being a New York state resident after college.  Vs. Philly/Pgh/DMV.  Unless grad school is certain.[/quote]

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