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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Cheating[/quote]

We know honest kids who go there, but we also know of a good number of  kids who cheated their way through high school that are also going there.  But, that's probably b/c[b] we are in Nova[/b].  [/quote]

I think this is the key to UVA's "overrating." Northern Virginia.
Northern Virginia likes to think UVA is a bargain Yale or Harvard or Princeton or Brown. UVA is an excellent school, but it's very competitive particularly for northern Virginia students. So it evokes the impression of being more elite and prestigious in this geographical area than it warrants. [b]I'm sure if you ask people in California to name the top public universities in the country, UVA would not come to mind.[/b][/quote]

I’m actually fairly sure they would, because UVA has been a top public for decades. I’m always amazed when people don’t realize this (and that’s coming from someone who didn’t go there, doesn’t have kids there, and only moved to Virginia in the last five years).[/quote]

Some Californians known UVA is a top school but many don't.  More interest in Michigan and Texas Austin than UVA because STEM.[/quote]

Outside the DMV, most people consider UVA on par with U of Florida.  It doesn’t register along with Michigan, UCLA, UCSD, Berkeley, or even UT Austin.  It is just pretty average.[/quote]

That's not true. I think most people regard UVA as a very good school. Nationally, people's perception of public universities would be -

Berkeley
Michigan
Texas
UCLA
UVA
UNC

I think UNC's prestige has declined somewhat over the past 20 years. Probably because they take 90 percent of their students instate. Which might be similar to Texas and the UCs but Texas and California have 70 million people between them. There is more than enough talent in those two states to fill Berkeley and Texas-Austin ten times over with great students. Whereas OOS students to UNC are often much stronger than the instate students because NC has a relatively small base of really strong students. Michigan solves the problem by being 50 percent OOS. And UVA manages a good mix of OOS and a larger pool of strong instate students to choose from. In any event, UVA is well above "pretty average." [/quote]

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