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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tufts is an R1 research institute with a medical school.  Pomona is not.  For a serious biology student, the opportunities are going be greater at Tufts.  The quality of the basic science research simply isn’t the same as slacs.  [/quote]
And yet Pomona is the fourth biggest per capita producer of biology PhDs, whereas Tufts isn't in the top 50. And how many research opportunities at Tufts are going to grad students instead of undergraduates?

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs#biological-sciences[/quote]

Presumably they get those at R1 universities where they can do the types of research unavailable to them as undergrads.  Look at the research coming out of slacs, little of it is hard core basic science, they don’t even have access to the most expensive equipment.  [/quote]
It's hard to disagree with unembellished qualitative opinion.

Yet, regardless of your concerns about "hard core basic science" research and access to expensive equipment, these concerns haven't stopped Pomona biology grads from immense success in admissions to PhD programs. Nor has it prevented them from having one of the best pre-med programs in the country: https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/from-pre-med-to-md-understanding-the-pathways-to-medical-school/ (In the feeders to "top" med school rankings, Pomona is #5, between Johns Hopkins and Cal Tech. Tufts is #45, between Hamilton and Bard.)

Nor would I be so sure that Pomona lacks access to "the most expensive equipment." Pomona's endowment is $2.8 billion for its 1,750 undergrads. Tufts's endowment is $3 billion for its 13,200 undergrads and 6,400 grad students. This doesn't include Pomona's access to other 5C resources, such as Harvey Mudd.

For the record, Tufts is a great school and offers a great education. I'm simply using it as an example to refute PP's generalized conclusions.[/quote]
+1, I do wonder their opinion on Harvey Mudd, as an inability to do science would be the opinion of solely them: major research institutes, STEMe employees, and grad school committees have all expressed deep trust that Harvey Mudd is a premier stem Liberal arts college, but they seem allergic to LACs for whatever ideological reasons.[/quote]
But, but, but . . . they are an MD/PhD! Are we even allowed to disagree with such esteemed authorities?[/quote]

You are arguing using a bunch of meaningless stats from a college blog.  Would you send your kid to Hampshire college because it has the second highest concentration of  undergrad to biology phds? I assume not.  I am going by my own experience in the exact field that op said her kid is interested in.  She can decide the appropriate weight to give it.  There are real differences between R1 institutions and slacs. There is a difference between having an affiliated med school on campus and not.[/quote]

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