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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I actually think watch it implode is the best strategy. We are long overdue for a course correction in this country, and MAGA seems dead set on bringing it on. Hell, Musk was joking with Joe Rogan about how much he can hurt people before getting himself killed.

The truth is that we’ve grown way too comfortable as a people. We’ve fooled ourselves into thinking we are self-reliant and the working man is more important and more powerful than he actually is. We’ve grown too tolerant of the nuts and the conspiracy theorists. We can educate people until we are blue in the face, but at the end of the day only starvation and deprivation and watching your kids die can cut through all the Russia propaganda and noise. They need to feel the pain of the leopards eating their face to stop letting the leopards loose.

I’m not a burn it all down type of person, but the people are demanding to FAFO so at some point we just have to let them get what they voted for. And remind them at every turn that they chose this and there are better options. Eventually they’ll hit rock bottom and want to be comfortable and naive again. [/quote]

You just said a whole bunch of nothing that matters.  You are chastising people and not offering anything optimistic to make them want to vote for you. At least try to be a better salesperson?  Your way to win lost audiences is for the situation to implode and FAFO? That's what you got up your sleeve? You hope people will run for lesser of two evils? The point is that people are tired voting for the lesser of 2 evils and tuning out.  At some point a 3rd party will have to emerge or there will be no interest in elections at all and things that happen with that aren't going to play in your favor.[/quote]

Listen - people voted for Trump because they thought things sucked under Biden and they couldn’t get worse. Even people that hated him.

Well, things can get worse, and they will. No one is saving them from themselves this time.

I’m not interested in selling anything to people who can’t understand. I’m not interested in

debating policy with people who vote on emotions. “Look at what the GOP did to you, let’s get even” is a pretty good selling point when people are feeling mad and dare I say it, violent. Worked for the GOP for a long time. [/quote]

I love the projection.  Federal employees are feeling mad that they can't do the Covid work from home routine anymore now that the pandemic ended years ago.  Federal employees are feeling mad about the first layoffs they've faced in many decades.  DC insiders are feeling mad about not being able to use taxpayer funds as much for their NGOs or for Democratic Party politics.  We lost the election and we are NOT enjoying the results at all.  So were are indeed "feeling mad and dare I say it, violent."

However, it is a mistake for us to assume that private sector employees or Republicans or swing voters feel violent.  People are always disappointed in politicians, but it takes a LOT, over a LONG period of time, for people to regret their votes.  Yes Trump's approval rating is down, but I'm yet to hear any swing voters say they miss Joe or Kamala.

If we think that OUR rage against Trump and his voters, which, let's be honest, gets kinda ugly sometimes, is going to motivate Trump voters to come back to us next time because they will magically share OUR rage, we probably won't win.  We have to offer Trump voters a better set of policies for THEM than Republicans do.  So far, I have seen nothing like that even discussed.  [/quote]

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