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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How do you know there haven’t been women priests? why can’t there be women priests? we are all made in the image and likeness of God. [/quote] We are talking about *Roman Catholic* priests. Of course there are for example, Episcopalian women priests. In Catholic teaching, at the moment a bishop ordains a woman as a priest, they are both automatically excommunicated. I’m not arguing that it’s theologically correct, but it has been the unwavering teaching of the Catholic Church, so you can’t pin it on JPII. Francis has been an advocate for greater respect of and increased roles for women. He is a huge voice for the poor, for immigrants . He’s firmly anti-abortion but has clearly stated that it is not a single great sin that eclipses others, specifically failure to love your neighbor. He chastised Vance for false teaching. He’s been good on the abuse scandal, taking responsibility and creating structures to prevent it. Like it or not, the Pope has big voice on the world stage. I much prefer a voice like Francis compared to what we could have. Prayer is not like some competition where if we reach the right number the Pope will be spared. Prayer is mostly about our relationships to God and to one another. [/quote] I can pin it on JP2. The women's ordination movement picked up steam in the post-Vatican 2, women's right movement era of the 1970s. JP2 then comes in and says, "We are all in agreement and shall never talk about this again" that women can't be priests. What are they so afraid of? Jesus says, "Be Not Afraid", but these clerics are really afraid of women become priests for whatever their reasons are. Then, fairly recently Francis told a group of nuns who asked for women's ordination that they should "go find another Church". What kind of person would tell a group of nuns, "Go find another Church". Really!?!?! Yeah, I agree Francis is better than many alternatives, but making up bs reasons why women can't become priests is seriously harming the Church. Most Catholic women are tired of this bs.[/quote] I get a very gay vibe from him. I think a lot of reasons why he is open to more lgbtq acceptance is because he is gay. It makes no sense to invite lgbtq people even married ones into the church and say statements like who am I to judge and then tell women they should go find another church. [/quote] IME Many priests of his generation are closeted gay males at the same time they are male chauvinists like straight men of their generation. This also explains the framing of abortion as “shame”, which is a lot of projection imo.[/quote] I don't think it's limited to his generation.[/quote]
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