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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There seems to be an assumption that drivers are always at fault. But that's not at all what the police say.

There were 35 traffic deaths in DC in 2022 (the most recent we have data). Of them, 12 were blamed on pedestrians, the police determined.

See page 24 of the police department's annual report: https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/publication/attachments/AR_2022_lowres.pdf
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It's just that one poster, who also says that the MPD are liars, that thinks everything is always the fault of cars.  [/quote]

No. You continuously misrepresent MPD’s analysis on here. Multiple posters have called you out on this over recent months and years. You ignore them and keep on misrepresenting. You are a despicable and dangerous individual.[/quote]

No.  It's just you and you're filled with bad faith.[/quote]

Bad faith? Like claiming that a certain number of people have been killed by speeding drivers when that number actually represents the number of people that MPD determined were killed in crashes that were “predominantly” caused by speeding (as opposed to drunk driving, failing to yield to pedestrians, and so forth)? Or do you just not think that there is a meaningful difference between the two? This was all hashed out here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/75/1247351.page#29088953, where multiple posters called you out. Please review it.[/quote]

MPD’s methodology in determining which factor is the “predominant” cause is a curiosity. Take an accident that most of us are now familiar with, the tragic collision between the regional jet and the helicopter at DCA a few weeks ago. What would be the predominant cause of this accident? That the helicopter was 100ft above the stipulated altitude, that the helicopter crew didn’t see the regional jet, that helicopter crew were wearing night-vision goggles, that the DCA tower was understaffed and the controller didn’t provide more guidance to the helicopter crew on the location of the regional jet, the use of an approach path that took jets right over the helicopter route, or something else? Picking a “predominant” cause among multiple factors - the removal of any one of which would have prevented the accident - is more than a little silly. MPD should really stop doing this, if they haven’t already.[/quote]

This is such a ridiculous, dishonest and painfully stupid argument. You're just mad that so few people are killed by speeding drivers. Everyone should familiarize themselves with the police department's traffic statistics, because they completely contradict the lies of the war-on-cars people.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/publication/attachments/AR_2022_lowres.pdf

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Interesting that more traffic deaths in DC are blamed on pedestrians and cyclists and scooter riders (15) than on speeding drivers (9)[/quote]

Interesting how you’re:

1) cherry picking data from 2022 because the data from other years is markedly different;

2) conflating “predominant cause of traffic fatality” with factors that contributed to the accident (for example, many impaired drivers also speed);

3) disregarding the fact that, in urban settings at least, speed is almost always a factor in accidents that cause mortal injuries to pedestrians; and

4) ignorant of the methodology by which the predominant cause is determined.

You owe us all an explanation of why you are so persistent in your efforts to spread misinformation that falsely minimizes the accountability of speeding drivers for traffic fatalities and so eager to blame pedestrians for their own deaths. If you love speed so much, find a race track and indulge yourself there. The residents of the DC metro area would prefer that you don’t endanger our lives with your carelessness.[/quote]

Uh, well, 2022 is the most recent year for which data is available. But you can look at pretty much any year you want. The numbers don't really change, at least not in a statistically significant way, from year to year (which, of course, speaks to how ineffectual all this "traffic calming" nonsense is. If it really made a difference, you'd see a clear trend in the data).

Anyone can see for themselves on page 24 of this report: https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/publication/attachments/AR_2022_lowres.pdf[/quote]

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