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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why do you care what atheists think? Same reason, just the opposite perspective. I will note that not one atheist I know complains when a theist attempts to defend their position. They relish the chance to discuss it, in fact. Wonder why that is?[/quote] When atheists represent God incorrectly (God gives babies cancer) is when I care. If I posted that atheists sacrifice babies to Satan you would care, because it’s an obvious and disgusting lie. Constantly posting that God gives babies cancer and allows them to suffer and dir because He is a cruel bastard is definitely on that level. It’s not true.[/quote] Atheist here and I wouldn’t care. Maybe some atheists do? That doesn’t mean all do, and I know that I don’t. I know who I am and what I believe. Words can’t hurt me, but they can teach me. I keep an open, critical mind. Maybe ask yourself why you feel defensive if someone criticizes your religion or the actions of people who share your religion? Or not. It’s your life.[/quote] Critical examination of religion is great. Repeating that God gives babies cancer is not critical examination of religious beliefs. Is stating that atheists sacrifice babies to Satan critical examination of atheism?[/quote] No, it is a strawman, off topic, non-sequitur response to a reasonable, millennia-old philosophical question about the existence of god. [/quote] God is an unlimited being. The existence of an unlimited being is either logically necessary or logically impossible. The existence of an unlimited being is not logically impossible. Therefore, the existence of God is logically necessary. [i]Whether or not God exists is a matter of personal belief that cannot be proven scientifically.[/i] If you personally don’t believe in God or gods, hooray. But your personal beliefs are yours alone. You don’t decide for humankind if God or gods do or don’t exist. [/quote] The evidence is of the logical impossibility, not scientific. Stay on topic please. Respond to Epicurus' questions.[/quote] One of the groups that debated with Paul on the streets of Athens was Epicurean (Acts 17:18) Epicurus thought gods did exist, but they lived so far away from the world of mankind. [color=red]Epicurus was a classical Greek philosopher (341 BCE), and his arguments are not focused towards Christians, because he predates the Jewish based religions which conquered the Roman Empire after 300 CE under the Byzantine Emperor Constantine the Great. [/color] Here are six (6) responses to the Epicurean paradox. https://www.pharosjot.com/uploads/7/1/6/3/7163688/article_25_vol_99_2018_-_philippines.pdf [/quote] Again you do not answer the questions, and respond with strawmen. The fact that Epicurus predates christianity is evidence against christianity because the questions still exist. A quick glance at that document indicates its assertion and reliance on faith-based ignorance in the abstract paragraph. It basically ignores the questions and says "nahhh.. god is good" using biblical quotes without addressing the problem of evil in any way. Just like you and everyone else.[/quote] you read, critiqued, and dismissed every point in the linked article in 5 minutes? lol, ok. Q. Did God create evil? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/did-God-create-evil.html Q. Why does God allow evil? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/God-allow-evil.html Q. Did God create sin? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/did-God-create-sin.html Q. How can I believe in the goodness of God when there is so much evil in the world? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/goodness-of-God.html Q. Why does God create people when He knows they are going to go to hell? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/God-create-doomed-people.html Q. Does God make mistakes? A. https://www.gotquestions.org/does-God-make-mistakes.html This site will answer any questions you have about the Christian God. I do not write fan fiction about the Christian God. The Christian God has an entire book we can read and refer to. You are making up stories that fit your personal beliefs (which are fine for you, but not necessarily accurate to Christianity nor are they pertinent to the beliefs of others) and asking Christians to explain Christianity and God to you…there is literally a site that lays everything out in black and white. [/quote] How are we to believe that everything on this site is accurate?[/quote] You are worried that this site is inaccurate, but are completely fine with taking the anonymous opinions of unidentified strangers posting here as advice and information? Why do you trust the anonymous strangers here? You don’t know their names or backgrounds or educational history. The people who maintain the linked site and their educational histories are documented on the website. https://www.gotquestions.org/about.html You should ask each poster here their name, religious beliefs, educational history, etc, if you are actually worried about the information they are posting. [/quote] I feel compelled to repeat this, which has not been responded to. It addresses the substance of the information in those links, and not the background of the site creators, which could not be less relevant. [i]What you mean is you don't give a $%$%# about the question. I get it, because there is no logical answer. If there was you would provide it. As for your link, you need only read past the paragraph that asserts the people of Sodom deserved what god did to them:[/i] [i]The claim that those God punished were “uniformly blameless” is completely without merit and historically inaccurate. The Bible records the exact opposite about the peoples whom God acted upon in judgment. A few examples include: “After the LORD your God has driven them out before you, do not say to yourself, ‘The LORD has brought me here to take possession of this land because of my righteousness.’ No, it is on account of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD is going to drive them out before you. It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, the LORD your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” (Deuteronomy 9:4-5, emphasis added). Those are words from YOUR link, and not only do they not address the problem of evil, they pinpoint illustrate the need for the question, because this behavior attributed to god is objectively evil.[/i][/quote]
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