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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I saw plenty of day laborers hanging around outside Home Depot earlier this week just like usual. Which I was thankful for, because I sometimes hire them. I find them , on the whole, to be hard and efficient workers and I like helping them out. Also nice to just pay in cash. [/quote]

I just had some work done on my house by a crew, none of whom spoke English.

They did a great job, and they cleaned up after themselves, and I could not be happier. I paid the owner of the company with a check. I don't know how his workers get paid.

This is what kills me about all this slamming of immigrants: They are filling jobs that need to be filled! They are great workers, at least the ones that I've hired. They work hard and do really excellent work. I had to wait months to get this crew to work on my house. Are they undocumented? I don't know, but I'm assuming because they've never learned English that, yes, probably. But I don't care. They are performing a useful, necessary service, they are skilled, and they are needed. [/quote]

Believe me, there are plenty of handy non-illegals who can and will do the work at a reasonable rate. Americans like you are conditioned to paying for extremely cheap labor because you do not respect skilled trades. And you do get what you pay for. I've run across enough of these Hispanic laborers who don't know how to install higher end work (think, for example, a Soss hinge) because they don't have a solution based approach. They do ONLY what they know and can't figure out anything more complicated.
People like you refuse to pay a reasonable rate for knowledgeable labor.
Go to Europe. They pay reasonable rates for skilled labor because they are actually trained and know what they are doing. And they are respected as professionals.[/quote]

If you don't like how its done DIY.  Most people aren't skilled as they are learning on the job and it depends on if they got training.[/quote]

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