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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In the meantime STEM folks from Europe can't wait to move here[/quote]

Why the hell would they want to come here. [/quote]

Because you don’t get paid crap in europe. I’m from Germany on a work visa and make double what I would make in Germany and pay half as much in housing and have a much much better quality of life. [/quote]

Do you understand?

At this point it isn't about salaries. That's the least people should be concerned about. It's more about whether or not you want to live under an authoritarian fascist state.  The USA is about to hit have free elections anymore at the rate it is going. [/quote]

How afraid are you of this that you would go to a foreign country to live in a crappier smaller place, work for less and have to learn a new language? [/quote]

Read the news. Then read history. It is extremely concerning to the point moving away and earning a smaller salary and learning a new language is worth it.  No amount of money is worth hits to freedom.  Are you even paying attention to anything project 2025 has proposed? Have you paid attention to JD Vance?  Have you paid attention to Vought and everything he's said? You have to have extreme cognitive dissonance to not be highly concerned about where the US is headed.  Just look at the disastrous press conference yesterday where Elon Musk made a complete mockery out of the Office of the President and made Trump look weak.  We all know who is running the USA now. [/quote]

This is exactly how MAGA sounds in the other direction. Both MAGA and the left are like twins. Completely unhinged from reality. Extreme catastrophization.

It is Ok. Actually more than, OK. US will do great, really really great! Vast majority of the people, who are outside the DC metro, are optimistic and welcome many of these changes.

USAID, or NIH funding, did not make this country great.

It sucks for us. I sympathize with the fed families, of which I am one. We will be Ok.[/quote]
[b]Name a country that defended science like this and was better off. Name a single one.[/b][/quote]

U.S.A.

Name a country that prospered by hiring equity officers.

Name a country that required diversity statements as a prerequisite for approval of research grants to science and technology.

Name a country that improved education outcomes by limiting/curtailing access to math in the name of equity.

Name a country that improved education outcomes among lower income groups by spending money on renaming schools.

Name a country that prospered by increasing the number of government workers.

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So you can’t name a single country that had positive results after defunding science and attacking academia? USA doesn’t count because it just happened and we have no time to witness the result.

I’ll answer your questions once you answer mine. Name a country or society that was improved when they did this. Because there are plenty that got worse. China, Russia, Germany. Give us one counter example. It should be easy for you.[/quote]

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