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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion. [/quote]

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.[/quote]

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.

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None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it. [/quote]

The Pope seems to hold roughly similar views.  Do you agree with him?  Or is his opinion just an opinion?[/quote]

It’s so cute how progressives think that “Christians” think alike on basically anything except Jesus being God.  We can’t even agree on whether he is one or three or both at the same time, whether Communion is real, and whether the pope is our leader or the antichrist.[/quote]

It's not just progressives, it's everyone who is religious.  Everyone thinks their way is the right way, which is part of the reason that there are so many different  religions. It has little or nothing to do with a supreme being and everything to do with people attempting to exert power. [/quote]

It is also why this country was founded on a separation between church and state, so I do not impose my religious views on you.  The tribe, including several Justices, fail to appreciate that fact.  [/quote]

Actually, as a historical matter this is not accurate.  It had little to do with keeping religion out of politics…many states had official religions at the time and that was fine with the Framers.  No one likes remembering these inconvenient little truths that serve neither political party.[/quote]

NP: This is true, and because they all had different religions, the provision was that no one religion should become a national religion. It was never that religion was 'bad" and shouldn't exist or that a person could not vote based on their personal religious views or that laws could nave no corresponding religious basis (most do, in fact); rather that the free exercise of religion should not be impinged by the federal government and that a national religion could not be established (like the British Crown being head of the official Church of England).

An individual imposing religious views on others is not a part of this at all. The government cannot adopt a religion, but "Thou shalt not steal" is a religious view, it is also a law, it is also a secularly held good rule for a civilized society -- and it is imposed on all of us. If there were no such law, one could lobby to have it even if your effort was based on your religious view that stealing is wrong, and that effort would be your right, and it would be OK, whether the law were ultimately adopted or not. Sharing of religious opinions is allowed. A Bishop sharing her faith based appeal to the government is allowed.

And I do think most people, religious or not, agree with her appeal to mercy. You'd have to be a pretty awful person not to - who is against mercy?[/quote]

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