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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The writers seem to blame it on careerism when really it’s just a lower quality student who doesn’t care about education. A lot of students are in it for the jobs, and don’t care at all about what they learn, [b]shown by the rise of Econ and CS majors everywhere.[/b][/quote]

Perhaps at Harvard those majors are not rigorous. At many other universities they are. I know many smart kids from those majors (not from H).

Harvard has long been known as the hardest Ivy to get in, easiest to graduate from. Opposite of Cornell.[/quote]

Like PP says, it matters very little. I need employee who are equal parts collaborative, analytical, quantitative and creative. Good luck finding these people in the most rigorous programs. [b]Most of them lean anxious/rigid non collaborative.[/b][/quote]

That’s what the entire T30 student body is these days, now. That is what this admissions process heavily selects towards. The days of the [b]quirky friendly geniuses[/b] are long gone. [/quote]

They're at flagship honors colleges and LACs.[/quote]

Not at the top LACs. You want me to believe there is a single quirky, friendly genius anywhere on the Swarthmore, Williams, or Amherst campuses these days? Please. Have you been on those campuses lately?

State schools — not even necessarily flagships — yes. That’s where the quirky friendly geniuses are. [/quote]

Yeah, I've been to all three and the culture was noticably more chill and friendly than the Ivies we visited. Maybe not Williams so much, but yes at Amherst and Swarthmore. But I also agree plenty of brilliant kids at state honors colleges these days.[/quote]

[b]Amherst redesigned their campus residences on purpose so no large parties could happen. It is unquestionably grim, and intolerant of the quirky genius kids.[/b] [/quote]

The two statements appear to be unrelated.

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They are entirely related. It goes to what Amherst wants out of a student body, and quirky geniuses (who value fun, because that is how they get their creativity fed) are not welcome. [/quote]

I don't buy the premise that there is a connection between big parties and quirky geniuses, sorry. I think you have a different understanding of "quirky" than most.[/quote] NP but what’s yours? You seem purposefully obtuse on this point.[/quote]

Well, I don't follow you either. NP. Quirky geniuses are associated with social differences and are the opposite of big partiers.

"The quirks often associated with geniuses can be attributed to several factors:

Diverse Thinking Styles: Geniuses may think outside conventional norms, leading to unique perspectives and behaviors. This divergence can manifest as eccentricities or unconventional habits.
Intense Focus: Many highly intelligent individuals exhibit deep focus on their interests, which can result in behaviors that seem unusual to others. Their dedication can overshadow social norms or expectations.
[b]Social Challenges: Some geniuses may struggle with social interactions, leading to behaviors that appear quirky. Conditions like autism spectrum disorder (ASD) can be more prevalent among individuals with high intelligence, contributing to social differences.[/b]
Creative Expression: Quirkiness can be a form of creative expression. Geniuses often explore ideas and concepts in novel ways, which can include unconventional lifestyles or habits.
Cognitive Overload: Highly intelligent individuals may process information differently or more rapidly, leading to idiosyncratic habits as a way to manage their thoughts or emotions.
Rejection of Conformity: Many geniuses prioritize originality and may intentionally reject societal norms, leading to behaviors that are perceived as quirky.
In summary, the quirks of geniuses often reflect their unique cognitive processes, intense focus on their interests, and a tendency to challenge societal conventions."[/quote]

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