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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Those other places really do not exist anymore.[b] Would you want to work in them?[/b] I'm a teacher and I have no issues with teachers getting paid much more to work there and I don't just mean a few thousand dollar bonuses either.

The few students who do end up getting a one on one aren't much better off because they continue in the same gen ed environment that is not the right place for them. I've seen a few former students end up in a life skills placement where they thrive. Fewer transitions, fewer demands placed on them, one on one attention, etc. [/quote]
I've worked in a variety of special ed placements and the specific schools/programs for behavioral disorders are actually better IMO than working in inclusion or any setting where you are trying to manage 1-2 severe behavior cases while keeping everyone safe. It's  quite remarkable how much more control some kids have when they know they'll get smacked back by another student or lose meaningful privileges. I have never seen a 1:1 be a meaningful intervention outside of physical disabilities, it's always a bandaid, usually because a parent won't consent to more restrictive placement. [/quote]

My kid is at RICA.  It’s considered the most restrictive placement.  It is FABULOUS!  It’s where my kid belongs.  Classes are small.  Teachers can teach.  There are other staff members that deal with escalating behaviors.  Paras in each class support the kids academically.  My kid actually feels safe there even though kids sometimes attack each other or throw chairs.  He feels safe because as soon as a behavior starts, support staff are called and show up to remove the child.

My kid is ready to leave RICA but there is no place for him to go so he’ll stay.  It’s a shame because that means he’s not vacating the seat for a needier child.

The people who don’t want a more restrictive placement have no idea what they’re missing out on.  My kids English class has 5 kids.  He reads full books.  His teacher has the ability to teach grammar, sentence structure, explain about complex sentences, and what makes a good essay.  You can’t get that in a comprehensive school.

A poster above asked what we need—we need smaller class sizes.  Most of the kids at RICA have some form of anxiety that creates the behavior.  Reduce the noise, reduce the chaos, let the teachers build the relationships.  The kids need to feel safe and supported.  And by small classes I mean 15-20.  What we do for title 1 schools needs to be the norm across the county.[/quote]
I'm so glad you were able to utilize that placement. I have more experience with students going to lifeskills/autism programs but parents often express regret that they didn't do it sooner when they see their child thriving.[/quote]

I think a lot of parents are scared of more restrictive placements.  They’ve “heard” things.  Their kids behavior isn’t as bad as some of the kids that they’ve heard attend and they don’t want them to be influenced and learn more bad behaviors.  They don’t want to be different.  Saying your kid is in a therapeutic placement doesn’t have the same cache as saying your kid is at Sidwell.  They’ve heard that once you start you can never go back to a less restrictive placement.

Most parents at RICA are thrilled that their kid is there.  Of course there are issues; every school has them.  But overall it’s a pretty well run place.  A lot of people end up there because it’s the last stop; they’ve exhausted all other options—both the school district and the parents.  Yet once a kid gets there, they are no longer the “only”.  They’re not the weird kid with behaviors that no one wants to hang out with.  They are finally amongst their peers and can just be themselves.  They don’t have to hold it together until they no longer can and just explode.  RICA and other NPP placements are the type of environment that every parent of a misbehaving 3yr old on the SN forum fears—what if my kid is like that?  But by the time you’ve exhausted other options, you are so grateful it exists.  When you see your kid thrive for the first time all the stigma stuff goes away.  It’s just really hard to accept that that’s what your kid needs before you’re ready to. [/quote]

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