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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We are hearing rumors some big clubs aren’t attending this year and were also just told we could bring more swimmers than originally planned. Which clubs are definitely attending? Who dropped out?[/quote]

There are not many big clubs at this meet.  The big clubs (RMSC, NCAP, Machine, etc) all attend NCI and Turkey Claus.[/quote]

NCI pulls in a lot of teams from out of state and many qualifying cuts are faster than senior champs.  It certainly takes a faster time to final.  It’s a really fast meet. [/quote]

NCI is just an incredibly fast meet.  Thankfully Turkey Claus, sport Fair winter classic, etc exist for the not incredibly fast. [/quote]
To be clear, there are plenty of swimmers at the Winter Classic that are fast enough to swim at the NCI.  Their teams just don't participate so they cannot, even though they have the cuts.  NCI is unquestionably a much faster meet, but it's inaccurate to say that the Winter Classic is for swimmers that are "not incredibly fast".  [/quote]

100%! Just looking at one event (50 back) in 9-10 girls, York, Makos, and OCCS all have 9-10 girls who are as fast as girls on NCAP and RMSC. York has the two fastest 9-10 girls in all of PVS by miles. (We swim at NCAP, but huge props to York. If we lived closer, I might change to York. They look like they are a true team.)[/quote]

By the way YORK has literally always has good 10&Unders so where are their girls ranked in 13-14 and 15&Over categories right now?

If they aren’t high then sorry they aren’t a good team (unless you only want success at 10)[/quote]

A lot of them move to NCAP.  [/quote]

Also NP but if every good kid needs to switch teams you don’t have a good team, however a girls Olympic Trials qualifier switching is a totally different situation. She needs higher level training partners which she will get with the NCAP boys (which are way better than Mako boys)[/quote]
I don’t disagree. But I think the point getting lost is that she already achieved an incredible outcome before the switch.  
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People get that but are pointing out that her cohort was older kids and as those kids age out she’s left with kids her own age that not only cannot push her, but probably can’t even keep up with the basic level of training she needs. [/quote]

And if you look at her times there are quite a few NCAP females that are her age that are definitely a cohort.  Not to mention the ones that might be older or male.

https://swimstandards.com/rankings?page=1

She has a true training group.[/quote]

Just because they are NCAP doesn't mean they are at the same site. She went to Burke and I am sure she went there to train with the Burke guys.[/quote]

She was fine, doing great at mako, and she'll be fine doing great at NCAP.  She is by far the fastest and most talented NCAP Burke female, and will be for the next 3 years.  NCAP will get the credit, though, even though she was MAKO for 9 or so years.  [/quote]
Is this a salty MAKO coach posting?[/quote]

Um i'm the OP of the comment, and it wasn't negative about either team.  And definitely about this young lady, who I hope continues her success.  I am just so tired of all the NCAP people here who think they are the end all and be all.  It is so tiring.  I don't even like that this young lady is mentioned in the thread.  Upthread another kid is mentioned.  People need to get a life.

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