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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Based on the College Board data, at least from 2018, about 125,000 students took 10 AP's or more.

This lends credence to the thesis that you need that many to be "in the door" to Top 20's.[/quote]

Check the 2018 data again …

1. Barely 90,000 with 10 or more.

2. Posters in this thread have consistently referenced “15 or more” AP tests anyway, which brings the 2018 number below 3,000.

3. Posters have also indicated other conditions like (A) a wall of 5s only on 15 or more AP tests, with no scores below 5, (B) a 4.0 unweighted GPA, and (C) a perfect, one-and-done standardized test score …

Of the 3,000 or fewer who met the “15 or more” APs in 2018, fewer than 300 per year met all three add’l conditions.

Adjusting for 2024 data, that number is 500 or fewer per year.

For the last time:

1550 IS NOT the same as a 1600.

A superscored or multi-attempt 1600 IS NOT the same as a one-and-done 1600.

When taking 15 AP tests, 12x 5, 2x 4, and 1x 3 IS NOT the same as 15x 5.

And a 3.96 IS NOT the same as a 4.0.[/quote]

There are many more than 90,000 students who take 10 or more AP classes.  The data is right there for you.  [/quote]

I’m not arguing that “10 or more” is automatically part of an elite admissions equation.

I’m arguing that 15 or more AP classes, with 15 or more AP test scores of 5 (and none below 5), an unweighted 4.00 (which is, by far, the least meaningful of these conditions as grade inflation has run roughshod on transcripts across the country), AND a one-and-done SAT1600 or ACT36 (with all subparts = 36) yields 500 or fewer seniors each year.

I stand by that. I’m not counting 14 scores of 5 and 1 score of four. I’m not counting a 1590. I’m not counting a 3.98. When you apply all four tests, the filter delivers fewer than 500 kids.

I’m not arguing that landing in that group is a guarantee of anything, but rather pointing out that the clowns who argue that there are enough applicants with “top grades” and “top test scores” to populate the freshman class at every school on the Top 20 are just that … uninformed clowns.[/quote]

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