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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I didn’t have the nerve to tell her my dh is on it, as is my sibling, and both look and feel great.

Why do people who’ve never been on it trash these drugs? Interestingly this friend needs to lose weight related to a very serious health condition that is affected by weight. The issue seemed very sensitive so I didn’t want to argue, but I don’t understand the rigidity. [/quote]

My sister is on one of these drugs. She was obese and is now very skinny. Got face lift and neck lift. Loose skin on body tightened up. Hair extensions. The works. She looks amazing. But can’t stop taking it even though she’s lost way too much muscle. She drinks protein shakes and can barely choke down food. But wants to be skinny. It’s her new obsession. Used to be food and now it’s this.

I find this very alarming and I’ve told her so. She just gets angry and says I just can’t understand. She has no disease. She was a gymnast that became an emotional eater; she needed therapy, not a drug. She’s still emotionally unhealthy. All of this is unnerving.

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This example is why I think the problem is related to addiction. Addicts tend to be all or nothing types. They also will.replace one extreme behavior for another--go from drinking to obsessive exercise or to another addiction. She sounds obsessive, which she probably cannoy change but she probably feels a lot better than she did.

It's why people on these drugs are reporting that they also don't want to drink. It turns off a need. I have been taking one of the meds for almost a year. It gets rid of food obsession. That's as big a piece as is the appetite suppressant. I have OCD and I think this is probably related as well.

It's like the drugs you can take now for alcoholism. They cut the effect of the drug and the people don't have cravings. This helps the people for whom 12-step programs do not work and they really only work for some people; long term abstinence with 12-step is pretty low.

I think addiction medicine and research is where it's at in the future. It will include phone addiction and other newly created addictions after that. I think this whole side of human nature is badly understood. I think if medicine can help people, why not help.with this? Some people are really, really opposed to seeing addicts as deserving of help or think they understand the problem when they don't.

People who don't have addictions are lucky. I think anyone can become an addict if you do something long enough. It is a physical response. The notion that it stems from a trauma is not necessarily true or only one piece of it. It's possible but working on that does not change the behavior. The behavior is very hard to change! The drugs help the person stop the behavior and feel in control. Stopping the behavior is very hard to impossible for some people. [/quote]

Cross-addiction or substitution addictions are real. Compulsive dieting and compulsive overeating have always been linked. Pills and shots and other drugs might help the symptoms, but the real problem is the mentality of an addict.

Addicts don't have a problem with their drug of choice. We have a problem with living. [/quote]

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