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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've never heard a smart person say they like lectures.   There is a mismatch between the academic quality of the students at T10 schools and the methods used to educate them.  [/quote]

I've never heard a smart person say they dislike lectures.

FTFY.
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I think the reason that DCUM parents are so pro-lecture is because DCUM parents aren't generally smart.  They're just very rich and somewhat above average in term of intelligence.  Their children are the finance bro type not the scholar type, and these types generally prefer lectures and don't like the idea of a professor-led discussion (or preparing for one).

However, these types also don't have self-awareness.  A prep school parent once told me that they were convinced that Duke rejects DC-area prep schoolers because Duke has an irrational bias against area prep schools.  It don't occur to them that these schools are actually filled with mediocrities.   [/quote]

Duke accepts from prep schools over public schools in our area, 2:1, and the prep schools have classes much more similar to Duke undergrad: discussions with the professor, mini lectures too, and lots of outside reading of primary sources [/quote]

So uninformed 15 year olds debating turns into uninformed 19 year olds because none of them could be bothered to listen to a lecture? [/quote]

DP. Duke has lectures and discussion groups. The PP post on socratic style lecture engaging larger classes is how I would describe most Duke classes, and that is how our kids "known" boarding school is. Students go to ivies and Duke with decent regularity. The high school students participate intelligently in discussions and also are very used to lectures, per my sons, though they noticed higher %participation once they got to their colleges(T10s). No "uninformed 19yr olds" are debating without the guidance of professors. The students who attend these colleges are cream of the crop, or at least the vast majority are. They do have intelligent thoughts and analytical skills, combined with a leader in the field steering the lecture/discussion, it is phenomenal. You are not giving enough credit to the current higher Ed learning, or maybe you have no experience with top colleges and top professors, or with top prep schools for that matter. [/quote]

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