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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The better private universities.

Stanford
MIT
Princeton
CMU
Duke
Rice
Northwestern
Hopkins
Penn
Cornell

A lot of publics might be better ranked in CS, but it's a pain and a slog getting a degree with so many 500/1000+ intro classes. Berkeley alone has CS classes with more than 1700 students.[/quote]
Of that list with CS issues, Cornell ( [url]https://cornellsun.com/2023/01/31/computer-and-information-science-students-struggle-with-course-enrollment-adding-stress-instead-of-classes/[/url] ), Penn ( [url]https://www.thedp.com/article/2019/03/computer-science-classes-coding-ivy-league-upenn-philadelphia[/url] ), Johns Hopkins ([url]https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2017/02/over-500-waitlisted-for-comp-sci-classes[/url] ), Duke potentially ([url]https://www.reddit.com/r/duke/comments/n0905v/duke_cs_concerns_is_it_really_as_bad_as_some_say/[/url] ) and Rice potentially ( [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/riceuniversity/comments/4h32r9/how_is_rice_cs/[/url] ).
[b]It has been a nightmare at DC's college, Umich, [/b]and I am very pessimistic about colleges ability to change this.[/quote]

Can you elaborate? DC (rising senior) has never had issues with getting a class he wanted, is on track to graduate this semester with a minor. Several of his friends have already graduated (in 3 years) without issues. [/quote]
Hey, DC just graduated from Mich! It's not a graduating issue, but likely a fit issue. He chose to go to a university, because he was advanced in computer science and wanted grad-level coursework/PhD (and the support wasn't great also takes forever for office hours in some courses). By his junior year, the courses he was looking to take all were immediately gone with long waitlists, and he felt like he was still scrambling after underclassmen years. It's definitely softening after first year admission restriction changes. By the time he wanted to try out grad school courses, he was met with a lot of resistance and realized it wasn't going to happen.[/quote]

Entering UMich student for the fall and also having a really terrible time with the basic STEM classes kid wants. Like there is not even a waitlist. All honors classes completely full, no waitlist. Can’t take prerequisite intro classes. And he’s entering with a lot of AP credit so not sure what to take.

For the high OOS price he may just transfer after this first year. [/quote]

[b]All big schools are like this[/b]. Sad they sell one story to applicants and yet another reality exists. [/quote]
Incorrect
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Examples? It would help OP![/quote]
Maryland [/quote]
UMD has restricted CS majors to 600 direct admit students, and 100 to transfers. It used to be something like 1400 total class size.

I don't think they will have too many issues with not being able to classes.[/quote]

Yeah but no chance to get into CS if not direct admit.  I wouldn't "hope for the best" with the 100 transfer slots.

Pick a school like WPI/RPI/CWRU/Rochester that allows your kid to major in whatever they want.  No programs are direct admit (except perhaps nursing which is a strict 4 year program and has to have space for clinicals)  Then your kid can major/minor in what they actually want, not what the school allows them to[/quote]
That's true, but OP was asking for CS programs that aren't overenrolled.  But you are correct, UMD CS admit is *tough*.[/quote]

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