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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am so glad that there are still people in this world who can see and determine for themselves that some things are clearly unjust and need to stop. In this age of whataboutism and people with no moral compass, I can see why OP is struggling with Tutu's quote.

1) was the holocaust something we should have stopped OP? 
2) was slavery something that should have been abolished?
3) if you see a man, beating his wife and her unable to defend herself because he is twice her size, do you ask yourself what she did to provoke him? [/quote]

I don't understand your point. The Allied armies DID stop the Holocaust. It took years, and the loss of thousands of American lives, but it was stopped. People who say that the U.S., including FDR, did not do enough, soon enough, don't understand how close the Nazi's came to victory in WW II.

The American people DID abolish slavery. At the cost of thousands of American lives in a Civil War. Slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment. (I might add that slavery exists in many parts of the world today, mainly in the middle east. What do you propose to do about it?)[/quote]

[b]The point was that the US intervened in WWII because it was the right thing to do, where there was a clear oppressor and a clear victim[/b]. Slavery was abolished after a bloody war that no one had the appetite for but it was absolutely the right thing to do. [/quote]

Huh? No, the US intervened out of self-interest, after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.  We did not join WW2 to stop the Holocaust or because oppressors were oppressing the oppressed.  Nor should we have, that would be unjustifiable.  [/quote]

Mmm yes, the evil German bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941, which prompted the USA to support the Allied war effort with Lend-Lease in March 1941. [/quote]

While on this topic, dropping the atomic bomb on Japan. Was that oppressor versus oppressed? [/quote]

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