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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard, Princeton, and Penn are the only ivies that are well known internationally.  Yale is a maybe.  Outside that, the others are unknown.[/quote]

Maybe business people outside the United States know about Wharton. I don’t think most people in the United States have heard of it. People here like to hate on Columbia, but it has a much stronger brand than Penn. [/quote]

Are you joking regarding Columbia having a brand?[/quote]
Columbia has the New York effect, same as NYU.[/quote]

Of course, people choose Columbia for NYC but I have never heard of it having a brand.  It doesn’t.[/quote] you have to be kidding. Columbia has a massive brand, way better than Penn for sure. [/quote]

Maybe you are living in the past.

[b]US News [/b]has Penn at #6 best university, #1 business school, #3 medical school, #4 best law school.

For business schools, there is no better brand than Wharton.[/quote]

It doesn't matter. US News is not that relevant internationally. Columbia a much stronger brand abroad than Penn. In fact, more people have heard of Georgetown than Penn. It's not fair, but Penn's name is just not that great. It doesn't sound any better or more special than, say, University of Virginia or Wisconsin. 99.9% of people abroad wouldn't be able to tell it from Penn State.[/quote]Here is an international ranking: https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2023[/quote]

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