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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The flip side is, what do atheist believe about such suffering? If you don't believe in God, then it is all just random and meaningless. [/quote]

This is incorrect.  Very much so.  When you understand that we only have evidence for natural forces, and that we have learned so much but still have so much more to learn, you accept that whether it is cancer or black holes the universe does not behave in a way that is optimal for humans.  Exactly the opposite of intelligent design.

In fact, people of faith like to use the human eye's complexity as their "evidence" of design, when in fact only natural methods could have developed something that works so damned poorly!

[quote]For people who are deeply affected by suffering (and not everyone is), they either end up religious or they become depressed. [/quote]

This is also completely incorrect, is pretty offensive, and you just made this up.  Accepting the realities of existence is much more liberating than believing in some deity and wondering why they choose to inflict pain and suffering.[/quote]

Right, so it is all just random and meaningless. The universe is going to do what it is going to do. You are a speck and worthless. Feel better?

If you feel liberated, great for you. But know that religious people don't believe in a god that inflicts pain and suffering for the sake of it. That is what atheists believe, the straw man they made up. [/quote]
Hahaha. How can you say atheists have come up with a straw man? EVery organized religion is the embodiment of a logical fallacy, that's why religious beliefs are faith based- there is no evidence at all behind them. Facing the possibility of a finite existence that just ends is not fun, but that doesn't mean you throw money and accolades at a branded belief system. I have never met a Christian who, when facing death, says "Well, it was a good run and now I get to go to heaven". If anyone REALLY believed that, they would not be afraid to die. It's better to use your head and come to terms with life and enjoy it for me. If it ends and that's it, so be it. If it continues- BONUS. BUT, I am not going to sell out intellectually because some goon in a get up is taking my money and telling me how to live on the basis of being rewarded after I croak. [/quote]

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