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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes. [b]In Japan, a country with an obesity rate below 5%, they consider a BMI of 25 and over to be obese. [/b] Just like how we have vanity sizing in the West, we have vanity BMI. You're definitely overweight if you're 25 BMI unless you are quite stocky with tons of muscle (most people aren't and shouldn't kid themselves). Americans are super fat. [/quote] The bolded is information to support that BMI is not a good indicator, not that the numbers are "wrong." The difference is a direct result of the difference in median body type of different types of people. A 25 IS likely to represent a high body fat mass on a certain body type and not represent that on a different body type.[/quote] Good lord, shut up. BMI is a tool. Is it perfect? No. But name another tool that can be used for a very rapid, virtually zero cost assessment for health like BMI. Of course something like skin caliper tests and and more accurate testing for body fat percentage is better. But you people miss the entire point. The latter tests require much more time and direct 1-1 contact with a physician or other healthcare worker, which means it cannot be as easily used across billions of people on the planet. BMI is based on gigantic data sets and statistics. It is a good enough tool to get a ballpark idea of your overall body fat. Yes, like with any set of data and statistics there will be outliers (very muscular people). It is hilarious though that people who are dismissive of BMI always try to claim they’re muscular or that BMI is ‘bad’ simply because they don’t like their number. Get a grip. It is a simple tool. I love how everyone with BMI >25 claims to be fit and muscular with stocky builds. Yeah sure. Stop being dishonest with yourselves. You all probably have biceps below 12” and can barely squat more than 150 lbs at the gym. Stop deluding yourselves, you are not diesel Mac trucks like NFL running backs. The Japanese have it right. Even a BMI of 25 should be considered obese. They even consider a BMI of 22 - 25 to be overweight. And you wonder why they live so long. [/quote] Waist to hip ratio is a much better measure. I don't think you understand how unhealthy you can be with a healthy bmi and how healthy you can be with an overweight bmi. Nobody is talking about obesity here we are talking about a 27 BMI. Youre the one who needs to get a grip. I've been a 20.5 BMI and still wore size large men's gloves and size 8 clothes. It was not a healthy BMI and my doctor asked me to gain weight every visit. It wasn't until I was unable to conceive that I gained the weight and was a healthy 23 BMI. Healthy for me is 23-25, size 10. 27 for me, is not obese. Do I have muscles like an NFL player, not I have muscles like a soccer player or a yoga instructor.[/quote]
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