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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They also get messages from consent training. My son has mentioned several times that it's "gross" for seniors to date freshmen. That used to be unstigmatized in my generation. Even if it was rare. [/quote] Consent training for boys is really crucial (as is explicit consent, of course). Fortunately consent training is commonplace now in the DMV and that’s a very positive development. Consent must be clear and completely unambiguous; there is zero room for error. At the same, I feel as if some boys could possibly get the wrong message, and just conclude “why bother?”[/quote] What a weird mixed message for girls. It infantilizes them while everything else is shouting girl power and girl boss.[/quote] I don't know about you but some boys have been known to pressure girls to do things they don't want to do. Sometimes it is hard to stand up especiallt when you started something but they push it.[/quote] I’ve always found this so insulting. Females are meek little creatures incapable of making their wishes known.[/quote] Ok you may find it insulting but, girls can be pressured becasue they are taught to "be nice" and "get along" and "do what the boy wants" It is fact then and now.[/quote] Be a parent then. It’s way past time to leave this back in time where this belongs. What perpetuating stereotypes. Are girls not good in math either? Who is taught to be “nice” and “get along?” I call bs.[/quote] Then maybe you don’t know what it’s like to be a girl feeling pressured a popular or older guy. It still happens whether you believe it or not. [/quote] I'm a woman. I was a teen girl. So we're going to go through this verbal consent dance with everyone because somewhere there may be a popular guy who is with a girl who may feel pressured and has not learned to speak her mind? Because of all these maybes we, as a society, have to delve into this linguistic pretzel because, if she's not capable of speaking her mind, the "popular guy" asking her a question is suddenly going to enable her to speak her mind? How is this any different? What is changing here?[/quote]
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