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Also, set mealtimes. Breakfast, lunch and dinner, at a table. No snacking at all hours, because it's hard to keep track of intake. Like sceen time, [b]no food before bedtime, it metabolizes differently.

I know people don't want to hear this, but it really is calories in, calories out. [/b]Most people who don't believe this don't know how to count their calories. When you cook your own food, it's actually really laborious to count ALL the calories. BTDT.

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CICO has been debunked. I’m someone with a genetically blessed metabolism (my mom is thin as well), low BP, excellent cholesterol and overall labs, and I don’t count calories.

I totally acknowledge genetics is a huge factor. But I also think it helps to not follow set rules about when and what I’m supposed to eat at certain times.

Since childhood I have just never been hungry in the morning. I’m glad my parents never pushed the whole “most important meal of the day” PR campaign from back in the day. To date, I still almost never eat breakfast. It’s 10 am and I’ve had nothing but coffee and water so far. I probably won’t have an appetite until noon.

Sometimes I am hungry for something in the morning and if I want a piece of leftover salmon or some cheese and olives, I’ll eat that. I don’t feel the need to have a cinnamon roll and bacon just because that is more breakfast-y.

I snack and graze throughout the day as I WAH. I feed my body what it is hungry for. Sometimes yogurt, sometimes a big protein like chicken or steak, sometimes bread. All foods can be good foods in moderation.

Dinner is my biggest meal b/c I’m eating with my family. But if I’m not hungry I’ll just eat a small portion and then heat it up at like 9 pm if I get a second wind to eat.

My eating habits would be so weird to most people but I’m still a size 2 in my 40s after 3 kids and my doctor says I’m super healthy. I think we all forgot to eat when we’re hungry instead of following a clock. [/quote]

But it sounds like you don't eat that many calories and avoid most high-caloric foods or eat them "in moderation" as you put it. So CICO. Not understanding why you are saying calories don't matter if you in fact are thin as a result of not eating more calories than your body burns. Just because you are one of those "eat what I want, when I'm hungry" people doesn't mean that your calorie count is high. It means your body is not constantly sending you signals to eat and that you don't eat out of boredom or oral fixation or stress, which means you're not eating extra calories.[/quote]

My point was that I think people think too hard about following some diet or schedule. If you get in the habit of eating breakfast every morning it becomes Pavlovian even if you’re not hungry. And counting up calories sounds tiring.

I was admitting I have a genetic leg up. I know to some extent I’m lucky. But I also think a lot of how we eat is cultural. Why do we eat carby pancakes and cereal and donuts and such for breakfast? (Obviously not everyone eats these; but these are considered normal breakfast foods). Other countries will eat rice, beans, fruit.

And why 3 meals a day? That is just something made up around the time America was settled.

My overall suggestion is that people break the cycle of eating what is supposed to be eaten when you’re “supposed to.” If you want a salad at 9 am go for it! If you want to make scrambled eggs for lunch, do it. All the traditions around meals are just made up.[/quote]

But what if that food DID NOT fill you up? What if you had yogurt and fruit and some almonds and your stomach, 30 minutes later was rumbling? What if you were always hungry and your body wasn’t okay with small amounts of moderately balanced food?

I can eat VERY healthfully. My coworkers are amazed at my healthy lunches and how rarely I indulge in the donuts and things brought in. But I’m not thin and never will be because I’m pretty much always hungry. What would you do if you had 3 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of broccoli for fiber and coffee and an apple for breakfast and still feel hungry an hour later? I have friends who eat a 100 calorie yogurt cup and are full until lunch.  I’ve tried every trick in the book—hot water, broth, more protein more fiber etc.

And so I’m dealing with hunger much of the day AND I’m still 15-20 lbs overweight. It sucks honestly. But I’m not going to cut my meals and drop my calories even lower because I would rather be chubby and hungry but not HANGRY all the time.  But yeah I’m thinking about food a lot because I have to. If I eat intuitively, even with healthy foods, I gain weight. Lovely. [/quote]

I’m sorry that does sound tough. My friend who was early stage diabetes started Ozempic and said she suddenly stopped thinking about food all the time and felt less hungry. It sounds like maybe you have a hormonal or some other issue going on causing your vide to crave more food.

The whole reason I disclaimed my good metabolism was not to be smug but because I know there is a genetic element and I didn’t want to be disingenuous that you can willpower your way through.

I was just trying to share what works for me as far as following my hunger cues and not feeling socially conditioned to eat. This won’t work for everyone if there are underlying medical issues, but maybe it can help someone who has a preconditioned idea of how to eat that is based on norms they grew up with and more than they actually need to eat. [/quote]

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