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So why do we attract scientists from all over the world to our research institutions? Why don't they go to China instead?[/quote]
np.. because we have more money for research.

Have you seen how many Americans vs Asian scientists are getting PhDs?

I don't necessarily agree with the Asians style of educating (I'm Asian American), but I also think the US system treats kids as delicate flowers who have no grit.

When faced with an achievement gap, the answer is to dumb it down more and more until that gap can be closed even just a tiny bit.  Too focused on DEI, and not enough on actual teaching basic skills.    The way to get kids out of poverty is education, real education, basic math and reading/writing skills. I  get that some American kids don't want to learn, and it's not always the fault of the teachers, but certainly dumbing down everything isn't helping these kids.

I don't have a problem with the schools focusing on mental health; I think that's a good thing, but dumbing things down for the sake of not making kids feel badly about themselves is not the solution. You know what feels bad? Being poor.

I came to the US as a baby, and my parents do not speak English.  We were lower income, and I knew that the way out of poverty was through education and hard work.
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NP and I agree with PP as an American born Chinese woman.  I think that western style of education is the right approach - drive has to come independently it just cannot be managed or force.  However, there are basics and unfortunately, esp public schools in the US are failing kids.  There is too much equality based programs and too much of the trying to make everyone happy going on.  On some level, you have to appreciate hard work and homework.  You have to do the work.  There's such a thing as discipline and expectations and while I don't know I agree you have to start at age 6 or even 10, you do have to start a bit young to get into the habit of excellence.  Not everyone will buy into this but some will and that's enough. I think often the mentality and focus is to ensure everyone's buy in and acceptance and I don't think that's the right approach but that's what's going on in the US.  Asia and many parts of the world don't subscribe to this practice - esp Asia.  There's a right and wrong, black and white to education and often times, you just have to grind.  Sometimes it works better than other times but for the most part, it does work :)

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