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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Btw if your response to someone who says they had suicidal thoughts and their therapist told them not to get meds because they were breastfeeding, and your response is "Making pro-breastfeeding the boogeyman of postpartum care in the U.S. is still amazingly misguided given the history and politics connected to the alternatives," you are a TERRIBLE person. Unfortunately, OP has encountered similar attitudes in her breastfeeding group, because there is a discourse around breastfeeding that is extremely defensive and toxic and has forgotten how to be human or show basic empathy.[/quote]

Alas I can live with a strange unhappy woman on the internet calling me a terrible person.

You seem to struggle with the idea that being told you needed to consult an [b]actual doctor[/b] about pharmaceuticals isn’t bullying. The fact that you had suicidal ideation doesn’t somehow insulate you from being told you were wrong.[/quote]

Not interested in learning empathy yet, I see.[/quote]

Empathy for what? Someone who doesn’t want to own their role in their own healthcare and instead wants to blame Big Lactation for the fact that they didn’t seek the appropriate care?
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Honey at any time you could have walked into any grocery store or pharmacy, purchased a can of formula and never looked back if breastfeeding was really the problem. You could have said to your therapist or PCP “don’t worry, the baby is formula fed”.  The fact that no one told you to do that isn’t a failing of the medical community. I understand you would rather shift the blame for your distress. I understand taking responsibility is hard. But no one forced you to breastfeed just because they didn’t tell you to stop. [/quote]

Oh honey, just stop. You pretend I care what you think when you actually are super stressed that I think breastfeeding advocates are mostly insecure people who get some validation from gaslighting and manipulating women.  I'm not going to stop thinking this because you want to blame me for the poor medical care I got as a result of the breastfeeding movement that could not care less about me or my child.[/quote]

You do apparently care a great deal what I think and that’s why you keep trying to characterize me as a bully for telling you the truth. The truth is no one forced you to do anything, they just didn’t tell you not to do something. It’s not the job of anyone, medical community or DCUM, to lie and tell you you’re right all the time.[/quote]

Lol you are not telling the truth, you're bashing me for not ignoring advice from medical professionals. You're insane, and yes you are a bully who deserves to be called out. You are not a good person.[/quote]

Louder for the people in the back:  [b]your therapist is not a doctor and cannot advise you about meds. [/b]That she didn’t tell you to stop breastfeeding suggests she understands the limits of her practice. If she had advised you to stop breastfeeding you would have been weeping to the internet about how unsupportive of nursing the medical community is.

Your theory that she received pro-breastfeeding indoctrination is paranoid. [/quote]

Wow. You have created an entire imaginary scenario in your head that bears no resemblance to what I described (a therapist literally telling me I cannot take meds because I was breastfeeding). And you are positing that even though other interactions l had with Kaiser, including a physician who was aware of my mental struggles, support the idea that they tell women they should breastfeed, that I am paranoid in thinking that therapist received similar guidance. GTFOOH. In any case, she got the idea from somewhere. The notion that breastfeeding was more important than my mental health didn't just magically appear in her head. And that's on her and the medical institution that employs her, not on me for not knowing her advice was BS and I really actually needed meds.

You can say otherwise all you want, I love this argument because it reveals to everyone how psychopathic breastfeeding advocates can be. Who attacks a person who tried to get help for mental health struggles because they didn't ignore the advice they got from a qualified mental health professional (which was consistent with what I heard from a physician)?

Do you get that all you had to say was you don't think that therapist is representative of breastfeeding advocates (I obviously disagree, and this whole argument we are having supports that y'all are not only insane, but mean)? Instead you felt compelled to try to gaslight me into thinking it was my fault. It's an absurd and cruel response and not a good look for you.

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