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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]First comes grades and then holistic admissions [/quote]

That's how it works. The more selective the school, the more kids that have the basics (grades, rigor and SATs) so those schools use other soft factors to differentiate - ECs, recommendations, fuzzy/opaque criteria - and can get away with it given their 'pedigree'.

Most of DCUM prattles on about ECs, LOCs and Test Optional but for the vast majority of colleges grades, rigor and SAT matter way, way more than the noise levels here would indicate.[/quote]

What do you mean by “get away with it”, as if it’s something sinister? Many of these schools get many more 4.0/1500+ applicants than they have seats.  How would you have them differentiate? I’d personally favor a lottery and get rid of this pressure to curate kids’ lives from pre-K on, but that’s never happening. [/quote]

Also the schools do recognize that once you hit 1500 or so it doesn't matter.  So clear the threshold and then they simply toss the stats away and look at everything else--course rigor, recommendations, essays, etc. So no, your 1600 kid is not "any better than a 1500 kid".  And the schools have way more of those kids than the can accept. 
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Nobody has ever answered the question of why there’s a threshold beyond which all test scores are viewed the same (e.g., 1600 is no better than 1500), yet out of the other side of their mouth they defend no such thresholds for GPAs.

Why isn’t an u/w 3.9 or u/w 3.8 or even an u/w 3.7 viewed the same as an u/w 4.0?[/quote]

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